Mecrofeeding: The Way to Chocobo Color Dyeing

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Originally Posted by Dead59Reckoning

What colour would I get if I went 0,255,255? That should be cyan/aqua. Or are the colours of the chocobos limited and it will give it the colour those number are closest too?

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The closest color to pure Cyan is Sky Blue so that's what color your chocobo would end up being. Similarly pure red is closest to Sunset Orange, pure green to Cactuar Green, pure blue to Royal Blue, pure yellow to Honey Yellow, and pure magenta to Colibri Pink. In theory these should be the easiest colors to reach since feeding a single type of fruit will eventually end at these colors (in actuality, there is usually a more efficient way to reach each color).

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Originally Posted by Glazwyb

Feather proc doesn't factor into color change at all - it's simply an indication that a color change has occurred. Color change is based on a sum total of the values of all the fruit fed to your chocobo. (It is possible that removing the chocobo from the stable after molting 'normalizes' him at his current hue, but I haven't tested enough to be sure).

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Thanks for the quick reply!

re: "normalizing hue," I had my chocobo stuck going from Deepwood Green -> Marsh Green -> Deepwood Green. Today I fed it 1 Pineapple + 1 Valfruit to get it theoretically to soot black, but not feather proc happened. After reading this, I removed the chocobo, restabled, then fed 1 pineapple, then got the feather message.

I don't know if that necessarily proves or disproves the normalization thing, since it's also possible that the fruits are just RNG and didn't produce enough change the first time.

I have been wanting to make a Rhotano blue chocobo but I haven't messed with the gardening as I don't know how to unlock the ability to do it everytime I try to it tells me I can't garden yet :/ and find it all a little up to chance I wish it was just selectable...

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Originally Posted by OlyverW

I have been wanting to make a Rhotano blue chocobo but I haven't messed with the gardening as I don't know how to unlock the ability to do it everytime I try to it tells me I can't garden yet :/ and find it all a little up to chance I wish it was just selectable...

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I'm pretty sure you just need to do the Seeds of Change quest in Vesper Bay. You also either need a private house or the right permissions in your FC.

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Originally Posted by dioxideUniversa

I don't know if that necessarily proves or disproves the normalization thing, since it's also possible that the fruits are just RNG and didn't produce enough change the first time.

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It's a good sign. I started with a Sylph Green choco, fed it pears to color proc and got Apple Green after molt, which was predicted. Leaving it stabled, I fed it berries until proc, which should have been Meadow Green. Instead I got Celeste Green - which wasn't predicted from Apple Green, but was possible if I followed the RGB values from Sylph Green. Following the berry path from Sylph Green, the next color proc should have been Corpse Blue; however the berry path from pure Celeste Green is Sky Blue. I restabled my choco and fed him berries until proc - the result was Sky Blue. This is promising, but isn't conclusive evidence for normalization as the RNG or inaccurate color charts could explain the result.

I'm having an awful lot of trouble with this. At first I was stuck looping between Deepwood Green and Marsh Green (3x each actually,) then I managed to get it to change to Kobold brown. OP suggested 1 plum, which I used, and that put me at Ink Blue, which needs up to 6 fruit to get to Soot Black! I don't understand this system :/ How can putting in 1 fruit = 6 fruits of error?

It's not really costing me a lot in the way of fruit/gil right now, but I'm really frustrated with how much time this is taking when it's so theoretically "close."

Kobold brown is identified as (50, 34, 28). A plum is -5/+5/+5 which puts it (theoretically) at (45, 39, 33). Soot Black is (45, 43, 36,) so all numbers are within +/-5. Instead I get Ink Blue, (27, 32, 40), which is a difference of -18, -7, +7 (just from one fruit!) Is the RNG really that bad?

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Originally Posted by dioxideUniversa

How can putting in 1 fruit = 6 fruits of error?

Kobold brown is identified as (50, 34, 28). A plum is -5/+5/+5 which puts it (theoretically) at (45, 39, 33). Soot Black is (45, 43, 36,) so all numbers are within +/-5. Instead I get Ink Blue, (27, 32, 40), which is a difference of -18, -7, +7 (just from one fruit!) Is the RNG really that bad?

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Part of the problem is that the transition values in those color ranges are very close so even a low RNG makes it possible to hit 2 or even 3 colors with a single fruit. Part of the problem is we don't know what RGB value your chocobo is at. For example - you may have been at ~ (42,26,36) which is closest to Kobold Brown - one plum would put you at ~ (37,31,41) which is closest to Ink Blue. From that point I would try a pineapple - since it neutralizes the strong blue and lightens the colors slightly.

I don't remember what I fed my chocobo last night (I know it was just one fruit again though,) and now I have Deepwood Green. I have no idea where I am really, so I just followed the calc's instructions of 1x Valfruit again just to see where it gets me. I feel like I'm just getting knocked around by RNG and overshooting Soot Black every time.

For what it's worth, here's a pastebin of the feedings I've been keeping track of (though unfortunately, I didn't record what I fed last night when it was at Ink Blue.)

Thanks for your help...

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Originally Posted by Glazwyb

I'm pretty sure you just need to do the Seeds of Change quest in Vesper Bay. You also either need a private house or the right permissions in your FC.

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Thanks I will look for that quest. My FC has a house and I believe the garden is open to me here is hoping I can have my dyed chocbo soon now :)

Maybe I missed the answer in the discussion thread, but has there been any indication that stable quality affects the strength of the affect of foods?