Crafter=Botter (90%)

Hmm, personal experience I've only ever seen jumbled name RMT bot crafting, plus maybe 2-3 actual legit players who I've suspected. I'd be very surprised if the actual figure of bot crafters is more than 5%

But it doesnt matter so much. Once those botters hit 50, they're left with the mass spam synths for money rather than playing the market like a good crafter does, so they're not really affecting legit crafters to any great extent. HQ bot? nah, wont happen!

I raised weaver and leather to 50 before the SP was boosted. 150-350 SP max a synth. It took entire runs of maybe 5-6 tv shows plus countless films but when it's done in that way, or whilst chatting to LS mates... its really nice and relaxing. With the SP as it is now, getting a craft up high isn't that much of a grind, especially if you know how to approach it - crafting = socialise/net browsing/film watching time, very relaxing.

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Originally Posted by Zephir

I know that SE do nothing about this...I know that there are person that say in this forum (I'm Botting and SE do nothing)

But this is my idea...

days ago I'm at friend's home and my eyes was catched by a little lalafell on screen with my friend that was engage in crafting (in legal and normal way)

After around half hour i am definitively that NOBODY (normal, with a social life) can have multiple 50 craft without a bot assistance.

Or a perso is an Android or is quite impossible to stay hour and hour in crafting..

We don't talk about fishing and etc... that are more terrible.

Personally i don't like crafting....but in older system (like FFXI) is possible to reach lv 100 craft with fair gaming.

Here with failure of recipe, random exp, and bad crafting system (made to encourage botting).

I like FFXIV but is very very very bad to see botter all around the game.... a game that, again, with him mechanics encourage BOT and not fair players....

Shame on SE....

Possibility to craft(BOT) in istance is again a very unhappy choice. that seem to be a gift for unfair players

When GOB bounty hunters against bot? (near every mining/logging point and etc?)

Or aggro mercenary lv 99? (XD)

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90% of players with poor english are bots, did you know this? I'm going to assume you are a bot since this post is well over an hour old and you clearly are not normal, nor have a social life.

I don't understand are we supporting bots now? Most of the comments on here seem that way. I say ban them SE stop taking so long please you know you wanna. Do it you know who they are ban them for us, for you. They spit in your face SE make them curse their lives.

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Originally Posted by Ichi

I don't understand are we supporting bots now? Most of the comments on here seem that way. I say ban them SE stop taking so long please you know you wanna. Do it you know who they are ban them for us, for you. They spit in your face SE make them curse their lives.

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no one is really supporting them, but there is a huge misunderstanding with some people as to why they exist

it has nothing to do with THIS GAME that causes people to bot

people bot, because they can, they are the same people who will bot in every single mmo they can get away with it in, regardless of how hard or easy something is

and the solution is quite simple, ban them all


making the mini games "more fun" isnt a solution, as lets face it, no one has a good idea for what more fun means(and hell no to playing bejeweled or something like that for a mini game)

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Originally Posted by Arch_Blegan

Zephir is making more sense than everyone else who's trying to misrepresent his point of view. I'll sum it up for all the self righteous snobs here who think they're better:

He's saying that a real friend wouldn't sit back and let their friend do something that would cause themselves (or others) harm. What's wrong with that?

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because he is associating this logic with botters, while at the same time making ridiculous accusations of saying 90% of crafters that have multiple 50s are botters.

Ahah TheVedis, we need angry birds as the mini game. I'm always running phone battery out playing that game.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

no one is really supporting them, but there is a huge misunderstanding with some people as to why they exist

it has nothing to do with THIS GAME that causes people to bot

people bot, because they can, they are the same people who will bot in every single mmo they can get away with it in, regardless of how hard or easy something is

and the solution is quite simple, ban them all


making the mini games "more fun" isnt a solution, as lets face it, no one has a good idea for what more fun means(and hell no to playing bejeweled or something like that for a mini game)

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One way to abate botting is to make crafting-progression based on questing rather than having it based on spamming recipes and hording materials.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i still believe that no matter how fun they made the process people that bot now would bot then. crafting has bots just like battle and gathering is in this game and every game has bots no matter how fun the game is.

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Hate to admit it but he's right here. No matter how fun it actually is, people will be regardless. Some might bot LESS but you will never get rid of it. Some people would rather have a program play the game for them, that's just how it is.

This game's crafting system has the potential to be bot unfriendly. Because you can get through most synths just spamming Standard it makes botting possible. If you actually had to pay attention to the light and choose different options based on that like I imagine it was supposed to be then botting would be pretty tough.

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Originally Posted by Zephir

I know that SE do nothing about this...I know that there are person that say in this forum (I'm Botting and SE do nothing)

But this is my idea...

days ago I'm at friend's home and my eyes was catched by a little lalafell on screen with my friend that was engage in crafting (in legal and normal way)

After around half hour i am definitively that NOBODY (normal, with a social life) can have multiple 50 craft without a bot assistance.

Or a perso is an Android or is quite impossible to stay hour and hour in crafting..

We don't talk about fishing and etc... that are more terrible.

Personally i don't like crafting....but in older system (like FFXI) is possible to reach lv 100 craft with fair gaming.

Here with failure of recipe, random exp, and bad crafting system (made to encourage botting).

I like FFXIV but is very very very bad to see botter all around the game.... a game that, again, with him mechanics encourage BOT and not fair players....

Shame on SE....

Possibility to craft(BOT) in istance is again a very unhappy choice. that seem to be a gift for unfair players

When GOB bounty hunters against bot? (near every mining/logging point and etc?)

Or aggro mercenary lv 99? (XD)

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You are an idiot!

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Originally Posted by Krausus

because he is associating this logic with botters, while at the same time making ridiculous accusations of saying 90% of crafters that have multiple 50s are botters.

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I took it as a hyperbole, all the wise-guys out there took it literally. Bots ruin the game and if you've ever played an online FPS you know first hand how infuriating it is when someone uses a bot.