Global Chat

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I swear to god the people who always say no to things have never actually played another MMO. Almost every other AAA MMO has global chat channels and they do FINE. Nobody who plays those games complains about the global chat channels, because you can LEAVE the channels.

At this point, I'm pretty sure anyone who says no is just a blind WOW-hater, because WOW has global chat channels and clearly anything WOW has is bad.

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^This. My god, this so much.

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Originally Posted by kaboro

At first i was frustrated by the lack of a global chat because i didnt understand zip of what was going on and i didnt have anyone to ask my cazillion questions.

A bit later i came to appreciate the lack of chat, now i like the quiet, but imho global chat will be beneficial to the game and should be implemented.

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If I wanted absolute silence all the time, I would play an offline game. The almost complete silence of FFXIV totally kills any sense of community the game might have otherwise had.

Ok, instead of saying what does a Global Chat harm, try to say why Global Chat should be implemented.

For all that I know from this topic:

YAY - Helps Trades and Party-finding, also interact with other people on the world.

NAY - Disturbing, annoying. That would let everybody toggle Global Chat off and never use it.

For the things so far, My mind says: We don't need it. The moment we'll need it, they'll implement it, and we know when we need it.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

Ok, instead of saying what does a Global Chat harm, try to say why Global Chat should be implemented.

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Yeah, in my view, having global shout categories has more positives than negatives.

Additionally, the potential negatives of a global shout can be mitigated to some extent with a few solutions like I laid out in my earlier post.

I totally agree with a global chat system. It seems so desolate and empty playing currently. No one talks in say or shout and running around in the field I rarely see anyone due to low server population. I feel like I'm playing an offline game. :(

I locked the door so that the Lie could not come in, but then the Truth whispered from behind the door: psst, hey how do i come in?
You dont want general chat because in your mind the majority of players are a bunch of freaks that will spam your head off.
You want to "lock them out" but by doing that you lock out all the helpful and enjoyable people out there.
An mmo is a community game, each community has people we like and people we dont like, we have to live with it, locking them out is not a solution.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I swear to god the people who always say no to things have never actually played another MMO. Almost every other AAA MMO has global chat channels and they do FINE. Nobody who plays those games complains about the global chat channels, because you can LEAVE the channels.

At this point, I'm pretty sure anyone who says no is just a blind WOW-hater, because WOW has global chat channels and clearly anything WOW has is bad.

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I feel like in this case, this is one of the features many are familiar with and have experienced in other games and is why they are suggesting we don't have one.

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Originally Posted by Xandre

I feel like in this case, this is one of the features many are familiar with and have experienced in other games and is why they are suggesting we don't have one.

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If people actually PLAYED those games, they'd know that practically every "con" posted here is either fully made up or existed, but was fixed within a month or two of the game coming out.

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Originally Posted by Nipa

Summary of the thread :
"There is no reason for not having optional global chats. Every other game do well with them."
"It will never work, RTM and players will spam! I don't want them. I'd rather be eaten by an angry Lala than have a global chat!"
"But it's optional!"
"I don't want them!"
"Optional!"
"You are obviously stupid if you want them!"
"Optional!"
"For god sake, please, never ever a global chat channel in that game!"
"Optional!"
"I can have any opinion I want!"
"Optional!"
"I don't want them because you want them!"


... and I have yet to understand why anyone would not want to have them.

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first off LOL nice. Second, I think majority of people against them is whether or not its optional it will become the most used and people hate it, in a sense their hands will be forced to use global chat because everyone else uses it for everything, so it doesn't become optional really. Its the same as someone saying (for instance) you can grind mobs for 200 SP a pop but we are making guild leve mobs 600 SP a pop and no limit on how many leves you can do...sure leves are optional but obviously you will never manage a grind party as long as leves exist.

Of course, this is just my opinion on the matter, and I personally have always hated global chat in every game I've seen it in so I will always say no but if it makes a showing I'm not gonna cry over it.

EDIT: actually a better example would probably be having an AH and MW at the same time, sure either one is optional but if everyone congregates to using one over the other, it makes the other choice obsolete and the one doesn't become optional. Its obviously not to the same degree but its a point and its been made.

No global chat, but a global lfg and global trade would be good

Why not just make it possible to turn some or all of your linkshells on at once and viewable in a single chat log, maybe just in different colors. Then, people with a lot of shells could have the illusion of global chat and more private people can only turn 1 or 2 on.

If you can 12 LS's then you could respond to them with /1 - /12. This way people could craft their own global chats.

This group is probably more ;) mature than most mmo groups so global chat might not be as bad as say, dc universe online... but i think we can craft a better concept of Global Chat than the current MMO standard.