To all those ANTI loot lockout people I say this.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Simple change the ilvl55 to ilvl70.

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Why? The dungeon's balanced for i55+. Sure, there are players who are already geared out i70 or higher, but there's no need to rob those who haven't gotten there yet of the chance to enjoy the dungeon from a lower ilvl and therefore a higher challenge.

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

So if it's so obvious and everything. Why can nobody actually explain what the issue is with someone else clearing all content and being bored? Wouldn't that be his problem?

Seriously, everyone always goes "but zomg people would clear everything", but I've never seen anyone actually explain why that actually is an argument.

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because they will be the ones who come here whining about there's nothing to do in the game.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

The irony.

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Oh my, aren't you just so profound and insightful? So tell me, which one of these terrible ideas are you in support of? No lockouts? No GCD? Both?

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Originally Posted by Ryios

The thing with the lockouts is. Most people who want the lockouts removed, don't want to gear out ASAP. They just want to be able to run BCB as much as possible, gear or no gear.

[...]They should just replace the lockouts with gear lockouts on the treasure chests in BCB.

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that's it ^^.


ps : i use to play in some mmo with under 5% loot per boss , even under 1% :)

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

So if it's so obvious and everything. Why can nobody actually explain what the issue is with someone else clearing all content and being bored? Wouldn't that be his problem?

Seriously, everyone always goes "but zomg people would clear everything", but I've never seen anyone actually explain why that actually is an argument.

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+1.
Everyone pays a monthly sub. What we decide to do with our play time should be left up to us, Not other players telling us how the game should be played. If I don't want to do this content or that content that's my choice and when I run out of stuff to do I'll deal with the consequences.

I think it comes down to jealousy honestly. Some people think its not fair that others can play more than them, And can get all the best gear in the game. Regardless if the game is online or offline, Someone somewhere is going to be better than you and can play more than you. Not referring to you freakiie.

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Originally Posted by Axidrain

because they will be the ones who come here whining about there's nothing to do in the game.

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So again. Why would that be your problem?

And how is there no whining on the forums now? I don't know, but what exactly would be the difference?

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Originally Posted by Axidrain

because they will be the ones who come here whining about there's nothing to do in the game.

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That's where you come in and be the hero that this forum needs.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

+1.
Everyone pays a monthly sub. What we decide to do with our play time should be left up to us, Not other players telling us how the game should be played. If I don't want to do this content or that content that's my choice and when I run out of stuff to do I'll deal with the consequences.

I think it comes down to jealousy honestly. Some people think its not fair that others can play more than them, And can get all the best gear in the game. Regardless if the game is online or offline, Someone somewhere is going to be better than you and can play more than you. Not referring to you freakiie.

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The longevity of the game has to be considered. If people can just power through all new content in just a few days (or probably less), do you think that really benefits the future of this game? It has nothing to do with "jealousy". That is an absolutely absurd argument, and like most arguments on these forums, based on zero evidence.

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Originally Posted by literally

Oh my, aren't you just so profound and insightful? So tell me, which one of these terrible ideas are you in support of? No lockouts? No GCD? Both?

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Everyone has been explaining their reasoning and you answered them with "rofl idiots". I'd be just repeating what they said.

But, to add, I don't like the idea of being "forced" to do something every week, to not "waste" a drop. Having people do it over and over, until they get the right drop (and they have to get it, or else the week is wasted), will burn them out faster than letting them just go and loot whatever they can, whenever they want.

If WoW LFR is any example, after a month or so it came out in Cataclysm 4.3 people there just trolled or auto-attacked until the boss is killed, because they didn't want to be there. It became an un-fun weekly chore that should be done to not waste a week. I don't want to think of the Crystal Tower as a weekly chore. If I have the time to get three pieces in the launch week, hell let me. It won't break the game. Nor someone playing all day to get the whole set. Better than having them come back frustrated with the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by Despite

These are the same players who just stand around in cities all day waiting for LFG to pop. Might as well be a lobby game at that point. I don't want to see this game go in that direction even if it means these players quit.

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But that's what mister director wants this game to be. We don't have NMs (that drops loot), we don't have a meaningful crafting system (that gives worthwhile gear), we can't even have good gear from Odin and Behemoth. Mister director himself said that he wants gear to only come from dungeons, and to get in dungeons, you queue or stand in Revenant's Toll shouting.

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Originally Posted by Freakiie

So if it's so obvious and everything. Why can nobody actually explain what the issue is with someone else clearing all content and being bored? Wouldn't that be his problem?

Seriously, everyone always goes "but zomg people would clear everything", but I've never seen anyone actually explain why that actually is an argument.

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Because many of those players will come to the forums and whine potentially causing sqenix to make it an even easier loot pinata.
Suck it up and deal. Back in the good ole days you were lucky to get more than one piece of tier gear per week.
These are the same players who just stand around in cities all day waiting for LFG to pop. Might as well be a lobby game at that point. I don't want to see this game go in that direction even if it means these players quit.