Final Fantasy XIV Hot Takes

I don't see the point in Thancred remaining a normal Gunbreaker. The fact he has a major weakness in that he can't use his own aether to charge his gunblade cartridges and is forced to rely on the Scions or anybody else for that matter to do it for him should really be treated as a last resort instead of a natural constant

We have Cid's Ironworks, the remnants of the Garlean Empire and the people of Sharlyan, any of whom could figure out an alternative method for Thancred to charge his gunblade cartridges.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

We have Cid's Ironworks, the remnants of the Garlean Empire and the people of Sharlyan, any of whom could figure out an alternative method for Thancred to charge his gunblade cartridges.

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Isn't MCH low on aether usage specifically so your average, every day commoner can pick up a gun and start blasting? I know we end up backflipping, but so much of it makes use of non-aetheric methods and gadgets.

Plus, he used to be a Ninja, he's used to backflipping even without the need for aether to guide him.

:T he literally could have gone for that than the one that specifically requires a crutch caster to load his gun.

Then again, Trusts needed a tank, and we couldn't rely on the Exarch to tank all the time.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Isn't MCH low on aether usage specifically so your average, every day commoner can pick up a gun and start blasting? I know we end up backflipping, but so much of it makes use of non-aetheric methods and gadgets.

Plus, he used to be a Ninja, he's used to backflipping even without the need for aether to guide him.

:T he literally could have gone for that than the one that specifically requires a crutch caster to load his gun.

Then again, Trusts needed a tank, and we couldn't rely on the Exarch to tank all the time.

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The thing is, Thancred can't use his aether at all. Otherwise it can cause some really severe problems. His fight with Ranjit in Shadowbringers shows that. Thancred almost died using his own aether against him. So him being a MCH wouldn't be possible for him, not matter how little aether it uses, because it still requires the user to consciously convert their aether into lightning aspected aether in order to power their arsenal of weapons.

He was actually a Rogue, not a Ninja. But was pretty much on par with a Ninja and was strong enough to clash blades with Ardbert, a Warrior and force the latter back. So it actually does make sense for Thancred to become a Tank at some point, if you think about that coupled with his experience as a Gladitor, too. Gunbreaker is actually a pretty perfect job for him, its just that his specific gunblade still requiring external help from others to charge his cartridges jusr doesn't make any sense any more at this point.

It made sense for Thancred to have this handicap in Shadowbringers because he and the rest of the Scions were stuck in a complwtely different world and the people of the Crysterium were able to figure out to use some of the Crystal Tower's tech, but not all of it. Otherwise the Crysterium would look more like Allag than what it currently does.

So when the Scions finally returned to the Source, I was hoping Thancred's handicap would be resolved considering the literal arsenal of big brain tech nerds scattered across Eoreza alone. But it never happend, unfortunately and it probably never will, which is a shame. Because I was hoping to see Thancred finally get some of his self reliance back after he lost his ability to use aether and had picked up Gunbreaker in order to be the Scion's shield. :<

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Originally Posted by Soge01

He was actually a Rogue, not a Ninja.

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if anything.., story wise. the rogues gained some Job/Class intermingling with Ninjas at some point.., it's even more so obvious when you've done such Job quests.
[Kinda Similar to how monks are treated at a certain point..,]

But in either case.., it doesn't take much to do some swings he is more than capable of..,

But asides that, he really is held back..,[Or maybe not]
<but the fact we don't know how frequently he Replenishes.., he's a master DD like combatant. or The rest of the Scions got some made multitasking than we can normally see..,>

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Originally Posted by Soge01

I don't see the point in Thancred remaining a normal Gunbreaker. The fact he has a major weakness in that he can't use his own aether to charge his gunblade cartridges and is forced to rely on the Scions or anybody else for that matter to do it for him should really be treated as a last resort instead of a natural constant

We have Cid's Ironworks, the remnants of the Garlean Empire and the people of Sharlyan, any of whom could figure out an alternative method for Thancred to charge his gunblade cartridges.

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I don't recall if it was ever addressed, but if it was, I guess it's technically a hot take(?): we should've healed Thancred and Y'shtola when we remade their bodies using a mix of aether and dynamis. Both their handicaps are caused by aether, but I doubt the damage was such that it affected even their soul.

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Originally Posted by GTK0HLK

if anything.., story wise. the rogues gained some Job/Class intermingling with Ninjas at some point.., it's even more so obvious when you've done such Job quests.
[Kinda Similar to how monks are treated at a certain point..,]

But in either case.., it doesn't take much to do some swings he is more than capable of..,

But asides that, he really is held back..,[Or maybe not]
<but the fact we don't know how frequently he Replenishes.., he's a master DD like combatant. or The rest of the Scions got some made multitasking than we can normally see..,>

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I thought the whole Ninja and Rogue inter mingling thing happened very recently. :o

Yup! He showed off his swinging skills as both a Gladiator and Rogue. Particularly as a Rogue in Heavenward, if you think about it. He used a rather one handed blade in conjunction with his usual old smaller arm. He was quite the arm strength and it kind of annoys me we never got weapon with his HW cash shop outfit. :'<

As a fighter, he's pretty much great on his own. Its just the aether thing required for his weapon that's suprisingly never been confronted or dealt with. I think in Shadowbringers, it was Ryne and Y'shtola that were Thancred's primary aether dealer. Then in Endwalker, Urianger took over that role as well as becoming his traveling partner so he could keep giving Thancred the aether doses he needs for his gunblade.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

I don't recall if it was ever addressed, but if it was, I guess it's technically a hot take(?): we should've healed Thancred and Y'shtola when we remade their bodies using a mix of aether and dynamis. Both their handicaps are caused by aether, but I doubt the damage was such that it affected even their soul.

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I think the damage is just both physical and corporal damage. And it might extend to their souls? Souls are made of corporal aether, but I'm guessing there's second layer of aether surrounding the soul that acts as the internal fuel for their bodies. In Shadowbringers, it was pointed out that the Scions were nothing but souls with aether acting as their "new" bodies, thus making them solid, instead of being invisible and intangible ghosts like Ardbert.

I can only guess that the reason why the WoL didn't fixed their handicaps when they brought them back with Azem's crystal was because the WoL summoned them back as they most recently remembered them, damaged aether, eyes and all. Plus, I kind of wouldn't trust the WoL with restoring Thancred's ability to manipulate aether and Y'shtola's eyesight. Remember, WoL's the same person that created the Eden version of the ARR primals who look almost nothing like their ARR counterparts. So, I can't imagine how much they'd screw up Thancred and Y'shtola if they tried to fix their handicaps with aether and dynamis. xD

Rogue should have never merged with Ninja, it should have remained Thief. FFXIV Devs did a iconic job, THF wrong

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Originally Posted by Turnintino

I find Emet-Selch annoying, deeply unlikable, and I think his extended presence (among other things in the Elpis storyline...) made for a worse EW experience.

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don't worry, I hate him and that ugly cat boy, I find him extremely annoying with the other scions

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Killing Papalymo only to essentially replace him with Krile was freaking lame. Like you killed him off and immediately substituted the dude with someone sitting on the bench. Papalymo deserved more development and more screen time. Did we get Krile instead because she's cute or what?

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Originally Posted by SeriousPan

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Killing Papalymo only to essentially replace him with Krile was freaking lame. Like you killed him off and immediately substituted the dude with someone sitting on the bench. Papalymo deserved more development and more screen time. Did we get Krile instead because she's cute or what?

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I don't think she acts as his replacement at all. They're two Lala and that's it.
If anything Krile is Minfilia 2.0. (generic nice girl with no personality traits). Ironically more than Ryne, who's her own character.