New NMs

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Originally Posted by Randis

You think that camping NMs is what needs to be awarded most, with best gear?
The solution with the random spawning of mobs anywhere in the game with no pattern of any kind would add rare items. Very rare items.

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You shouldn't have to camp the hardest monsters in the game to get the rarest, bestest, coolest gear. NM should camp you!

Your party of 4 is wandering down a road and freaking giant dragon lands on your buddy. Survive, get rewarded. That's a challenge.

Monsters that are only out at night and roaming wide, or in certain weather are cool. Monsters that only are in deep caves or dungeons that you have to fight to get to are cool. Monsters that attack you at random while on a ship are cool. Monsters that are actively assaulting you out of the sky, or stampeding towards the hamlet you are in are cool.

Monsters that pop on a clock are boring...

This game needs to more challenging and more dangerous and more alive, monsters that pop on a clock just seem like....blah....

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Originally Posted by Visch

You're so funny. You act as if the people who use the forum actually play the game and devs will do what they say. :)

You have no argument other then you want to be as good as people who play more than you.

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This is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. If people are posting on THESE forums they HAVE to have an account in some form or another, meaning the have, they are, or they will play the game. This seems like obvious logic to me.

Monsters that attack you sounds awesome.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

This is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. If people are posting on THESE forums they HAVE to have an account in some form or another, meaning the have, they are, or they will play the game. This seems like obvious logic to me.

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What about Belgian Rofl? He uses the forums more than anyone, but I doubt he ever plays.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Then say something constructive? There is no need to garner support from people who are rank 34 and will never even kill an NM nor understand what a 21-24 hour window even is.

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Your posts make my eyes bleed.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

This is the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard. If people are posting on THESE forums they HAVE to have an account in some form or another, meaning the have, they are, or they will play the game. This seems like obvious logic to me.

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Originally Posted by Rau

What about Belgian Rofl? He uses the forums more than anyone, but I doubt he ever plays.

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Then why haven't they taken away surplus and added a barber shop along with male mithra? Exactly.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Your posts make my eyes bleed.

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Your sig and name make my eyes bleed.

But he has an account, meaning he has played or will play or get kicked from the forums when they finally make the game pay to play. I'm not saying that everyone here is currently playing, but they all HAVE at some point.

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Originally Posted by Visch

Then why haven't they taken away surplus and added a barber shop along with male mithra? Exactly.



Your sig and name make my eyes bleed.

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Last time I checked, each of those thread have had Dev posts saying "We are currently looking into this," something this thread will never get.

If Square Enix is focussing more on small groups of more shells, that makes elitist wishes of high-camp spawns even less likely than before. Players like these be finding another way to separate themselves from the masses besides preventing them from accessing content. And when that happens, of course they become more common. THe easiest part about Nidhogg was Nidhogg. If it were harder to kill these players couldn't kill it. If it were easier to access everyone should be having fun...but them because being "common" isn't fun to them.

They're not good players. They're just basely selfish.

Important NMs that have important items will likely be in instances so that no one has to waste their time with HNMLS nonsense.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

But he has an account, meaning he has played or will play or get kicked from the forums when they finally make the game pay to play. I'm not saying that everyone here is currently playing, but they all HAVE at some point.

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That doesn't mean that have any experience what-so-ever.

That is why people are posting things like "THE GAME IS DYING" when they're rank 11 and started in grid.

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Originally Posted by Keftenk

Ya, for sure.
WTB BUBBLY BERNIE LAWLS

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WE NEED BUBBLY BERNIE!

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Originally Posted by Visch

That doesn't mean that have any experience what-so-ever.

That is why people are posting things like "THE GAME IS DYING" when they're rank 11 and started in grid.

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What does this have to do with the fact that your thread has garnered no support for your 24 hr Spawn NMs while other thread get plenty of constructive criticism or support. I have plenty of experience in this game, as do MANY of the posters on this board, and most of us think this is a horrible idea.

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Originally Posted by Falcus

WE NEED BUBBLY BERNIE!

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Yes we do.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

THe easiest part about Nidhogg was Nidhogg.

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What is the easiest part of 8-man Uraeus?

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

What does this have to do with the fact that your thread has garnered no support for your 24 hr Spawn NMs while other thread get plenty of constructive criticism or support. I have plenty of experience in this game, as do MANY of the posters on this board, and most of us think this is a horrible idea.

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Not much experience crafting.

Also, most of you also either don't understand what a 21-24 hour NM is and feel you should be just as good as everyone else without playing as much. It's the same argument.

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Originally Posted by Visch

You're so funny. You act as if the people who use the forum actually play the game and devs will do what they say. :)

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Yes funny right, but hey, you and your buddies are also on the forums.
And yes, the developers do a lot of changes according to user feedback, look around, check out the dev forum.

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Originally Posted by Visch

You have no argument other then you want to be as good as people who play more than you.

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You do not play more than me and you are no better. Looking at your rather low ranks i would say i play more time efficient. (+i don’t live in my moms basement)
Sorry, but clearly you are the one without arguments.
Again, you guys really should check out WOW, its perfect for lite gamer like you.

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Originally Posted by Visch

That doesn't mean that have any experience what-so-ever.

That is why people are posting things like "THE GAME IS DYING" when they're rank 11 and started in grid.

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That statement alone has a meaning to it.

It means that Gridania is a pile of feces and needs to be redone. If we were to all keep our mouth shut, SE would have never bother addressing the horrific grid that is of that zone.

Klaus, dog. Not gonna bother me. You were done in this thread before you even made it. You have no chance to shape this game into whatever game you and your boys came from.

Naturally the migrant elite just HAVE to land on my server...freaking Square Enix fate right there.

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Originally Posted by Naylia

You shouldn't have to camp the hardest monsters in the game to get the rarest, bestest, coolest gear. NM should camp you!

Your party of 4 is wandering down a road and freaking giant dragon lands on your buddy. Survive, get rewarded. That's a challenge.

Monsters that are only out at night and roaming wide, or in certain weather are cool. Monsters that only are in deep caves or dungeons that you have to fight to get to are cool. Monsters that attack you at random while on a ship are cool. Monsters that are actively assaulting you out of the sky, or stampeding towards the hamlet you are in are cool.

Monsters that pop on a clock are boring...

This game needs to more challenging and more dangerous and more alive, monsters that pop on a clock just seem like....blah....

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I wouldnt be opposed to that. Would add a kinda Monster Hunter/ Demon Souls, or even old school FF random battle element to things. In moderation of course, since I dont want to be eviscerated by a Royal Antlion anytime I wander around Ul'dah.

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Originally Posted by Goshzilla

That statement alone has a meaning to it.

It means that Gridania is a pile of feces and needs to be redone. If we were to all keep our mouth shut, SE would have never bother addressing the horrific grid that is of that zone.

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Yes it is.

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Originally Posted by Randis

Yes funny right, but hey, you and your buddies are also on the forums.
And yes, the developers do a lot of changes according to user feedback, look around, check out the dev forum.

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Like?

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Originally Posted by Randis

You do not play more than me and you are no better. Looking at your rather low ranks

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You can't see my equipment or seen me do anything. Being good isn't doing rank 20 leves. And I can't see ANYTHING about you leading me to believe you don't even play.

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Originally Posted by Peregrine

Klaus, dog. Not gonna bother me.

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You're already bothered by the Easter event. All those eggs and bunnies... :3 mad?

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

I wouldnt be opposed to that. Would add a kinda Monster Hunter/ Demon Souls, or even old school FF random battle element to things. In moderation of course, since I dont want to be eviscerated by a Royal Antlion anytime I wander around Ul'dah.

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That would be kind of cool. But hard to be prepared for! :x

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Originally Posted by Visch

Not much experience crafting.

Also, most of you also either don't understand what a 21-24 hour NM is and feel you should be just as good as everyone else without playing as much. It's the same argument.

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...OMG. "Not much experience crafting", where did that come from? How old are you that you can't string together a coherent thought process.

I am max level, almost in 2 jobs now. Not to mention that I got level 50 before the SP patch made it a cake walk. I have spent days doing nothing but playing this game. Who cares what my other levels are. I am playing this game to be a PGL. That is it, everything else is content I have little interest in. I know exactly what a 21-24 hour spawn window is; USELESS. It is an archaic mechanic that doesn't belong anymore. There are easier ways to make gear rare.

Casual players out-numbering harcore gamers, your not garnering more support, the likely thing thats happening is that the majority cry to your ls's that someone doesnt agree with you and you get them to get on the forums to agree, happens alot really, i spent my first 4yrs on 11 in social ls's.

HNM people arent being selfish, we want something fun for us just like you do for yourselves, but for some reason all of you want in on the club but refuse to put in effort. I will never understand the rationalization of "We never play, so give us everything). Why do you have to have everything, consider something like sky in ff11, your endgame, be happy there and live your lives, why do you have to dumb down content that caters to us in any way just so you can do it.

If you honestly have fun by just running around with 2-3 other people and doing w/e, then be happy with it, stay away from NM's and harder content, its not for you, never was.

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

I wouldnt be opposed to that. Would add a kinda Monster Hunter/ Demon Souls, or even old school FF random battle element to things. In moderation of course, since I dont want to be eviscerated by a Royal Antlion anytime I wander around Ul'dah.

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i do, it would be funny as hell if an NM had the random chance to spawn in a city and go on a rampage :D

*thinks back to Ragnarok Online*

ah the memories of seeing all the merchants in Prontera being slaughtered by Drake's army ^^
that was the best episode imo.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

...OMG. "Not much experience crafting", where did that come from? How old are you that you can't string together a coherent thought process.

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I looked at your sig. Omg.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

I am max level, almost in 2 jobs now. Not to mention that I got level 50 before the SP patch made it a cake walk. I have spent days doing nothing but playing this game. Who cares what my other levels are. I am playing this game to be a PGL. That is it, everything else is content I have little interest in. I know exactly what a 21-24 hour spawn window is; USELESS. It is an archaic mechanic that doesn't belong anymore. There are easier ways to make gear rare.

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That doesn't mean you're good? Leveling up doesn't make you good. Just like having a Maat's hat didn't make you good in XI.

21-24 hour spawn doesn't belong anymore? How about making an argument here instead of opinions.

Here I'll make it for you: "I want to be good without trying"

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Originally Posted by Visch

I looked at your sig. Omg.



That doesn't mean you're good? Leveling up doesn't make you good. Just like having a Maat's hat didn't make you good in XI.

21-24 hour spawn doesn't belong anymore? How about making an argument here instead of opinions.

Here I'll make it for you: "I want to be good without trying"

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24hr spawn doesn't make you good either. It just means that you have more time to waste on things that don't matter (like games) than people that actually have a structured life =)

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Originally Posted by Dubont

24hr spawn doesn't make you good either. It just means that you have more time to waste on things that don't matter (like games) than people that actually have a structured life =)

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That doesn't make sense. Doing anything in the game would be playing the game. Why would you be playing at all if you feel this way?

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Originally Posted by Visch

That would be kind of cool. But hard to be prepared for! :x

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Originally Posted by Falcus

i do, it would be funny as hell if an NM had the random chance to spawn in a city and go on a rampage :D

*thinks back to Ragnarok Online*

ah the memories of seeing all the merchants in Prontera being slaughtered by Drake's army ^^
that was the best episode imo.

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We might actually get a taste of that if Hamlet Defense is anything like I imagine it to be.

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Originally Posted by Visch

That doesn't mean that have any experience what-so-ever.

That is why people are posting things like "THE GAME IS DYING" when they're rank 11 and started in grid.

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sounds like 70% of the people on the forums

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

We might actually get a taste of that if Hamlet Defense is anything like I imagine it to be.

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Yeah I'm excited!

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Originally Posted by Phrozen

sounds like 70% of the people on the forums

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My point exactly!

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Originally Posted by Visch

Like?

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What part of "check the dev forums' you did not understand? You can read can you?

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Originally Posted by Visch

You can't see my equipment or seen me do anything. Being good isn't doing rank 20 leves. And I can't see ANYTHING about you leading me to believe you don't even play.

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Do i have to see your equipment to measure your camping skill? For all i know you might just spam 111111 all day long.

Dude, FFXIV is a very easy game, having a silver Tricorne does not make you hardcore. In my LS most people have a +1 one. Hell people sell them out for cheap already coz they have too many.

You think that people who don’t show the stats in their sig don't play game? are you a complete noob? There are enough people on the forums who have a lot more higher ranked classes. You grinded one to 50 and you think you are pro now?
You probably have a batch recorder do your crafting when you sleep

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Originally Posted by Visch

I looked at your sig. Omg.
That doesn't mean you're good? Leveling up doesn't make you good. Just like having a Maat's hat didn't make you good in XI.

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Oh but camping a 24h pop makes you good? noob

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Originally Posted by Visch

That doesn't make sense. Doing anything in the game would be playing the game. Why would you be playing at all if you feel this way?

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Actually, it makes perfect sense. If I feel this way, why do I play? I play because I like the game and I have some downtime after work and sometimes during school. Playing 5-8hrs a day is normal and I consider that a decent amount of playtime, but being on the game from 6am to 4am with 2 hrs of sleep is not healthy and anyone who plays this much really needs to rethink the difference between reality and a virtual world.

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Originally Posted by Visch

I looked at your sig. Omg.

That doesn't mean you're good? Leveling up doesn't make you good. Just like having a Maat's hat didn't make you good in XI.

21-24 hour spawn doesn't belong anymore? How about making an argument here instead of opinions.

Here I'll make it for you: "I want to be good without trying"

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You're so so sad. First of all, crafting has no bearing on a "21-24 Hour" pop window on NMs. I paid my dues son and it shows in the fact that I hit 50 before you. Wanna question my 'commitment' it pays to have the facts.

>508 posts.

Okay..how did this happen? Seriously, this was at less than 50 when I left.

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Originally Posted by Visch

That would be kind of cool. But hard to be prepared for! :x

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Kind of the point I guess.

Rare gear should be rare, and earning it should be based on valor and victory in battle. What if HNMs didn't pop...but assaulted Ul'dah on some random time frame...(when they felt they had sufficient strength of numbers vs PCs and could maybe wipe us out). And the massive group of mobs and the HNM poured through one of the passages our of northern Thanalan - or poured out of any of the caves that go nowhere really. And made their way south to Ul'dah trying to slaughter every PC in sight.

Those adventurer's that don't turn and flee, but instead turn to face the HNM and engage, and turn him back so that he flees tail between his legs back to the north are victorious and well rewarded.

But maybe those outside the city fall, and he keeps rampaging through into town and starts slaughtering crafters outside bric-a-brac left and right. If it gets to the point of really wiping the whole map, then the Azemya's sheilds ride to the rescue and save or sorry rears or some such.

Please...think outside the box about what you really want this game to be. It might take work and thought by the dev team, but that's what I want them to do.

Well hopefully SE realizes the amount of people who would actually want to camp 24 hour NMs is an extreme minority. This isn't FFXI-2. I camped HNMs in FFXI, I've had enough of that archaic system. There is nothing special about waiting for spawns. End game encounters should be about the encounter itself not being forced into a massive time sink. I'm fine with not being able to obtain gear because I or my linkshell is not good enough to kill a boss, I don't care about being a unique snowflake but everyone should be able to attempt the encounters. 24 hour spawns are asinine, especially when chances are you probably won't get claim on top of shit drop rates, fuck that nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

Actually, it makes perfect sense. If I feel this way, why do I play? I play because I like the game and I have some downtime after work and sometimes during school. Playing 5-8hrs a day is normal and I consider that a decent amount of playtime, but being on the game from 6am to 4am with 2 hrs of sleep is not healthy and anyone who plays this much really needs to rethink the difference between reality and a virtual world.

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No one is telling you to do this to camp NMs. You play just as much as I do.

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Originally Posted by Randis

What part of "check the dev forums' you did not understand? You can read can you?

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Yeah I can and haven't seen anything. Do you read what I post? Because it doesn't seem like it. Seems like you're a troll.

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Originally Posted by Randis

Do i have to see your equipment to measure your camping skill? For all i know you might just spam 111111 all day long.

Dude, FFXIV is a very easy game, having a silver Tricorne does not make you hardcore. In my LS most people have a +1 one. Hell people sell them out for cheap already coz they have too many.

You think that people who don’t show the stats in their sig don't play game? are you a complete noob? There are enough people on the forums who have a lot more higher ranked classes. You grinded one to 50 and you think you are pro now?
You probably have a batch recorder do your crafting when you sleep.

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Um, guess you didn't see the vid of goblin. It's ok. And no I don't think you play the game.

Who cares about your silver tricorne +1? You get 4 of them a drop. Every person in my LS has one and a dodore doublet. It's a dime a dozen dude. The NMs are a joke, they are no measure of skill unless you're doing it solo/duo.

And if I was crafting like that why would I only be 49 leather? LOL

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Originally Posted by Skeeter

End game encounters should be about the encounter itself not being forced into a massive time sink.

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If you haven't noticed MMOs are s'post to be time sinks. Not something you beat in 40 hours and get a THE END screen.

18~30 hr (random) respawn rate will create more feeling in hunting imo

Harder (hardcore hard) NM possibly with special event-battle not just tank-spanking (based on NM's i watched on youtube)..

respawning minions might be fun

or free for all NM..loot goes to party with highest DPS?(8 man parties)..free for all NM = REALLY pain in the ass hard

Last, the loot must be an armor/weapon or some special equipae item and not just a material.. Boss drop should be > craft items

24hr spawn time? ur such a noob. pros know its a 72hr spawn time for it to be a real NM. that takes real skill.

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Originally Posted by Jeronlmo

If you honestly have fun by just running around with 2-3 other people and doing w/e, then be happy with it, stay away from NM's and harder content, its not for you, never was.

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And that's the problem, you seem to think you know what's good for others, casual players like challenging content as much as the hardcore, but they just don't want to be chained to their computer to do it.

Time doesn't = skill and its time you "elite" players realised that.

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Originally Posted by phokyou

Last, the loot must be an armor/weapon or some special equipae item and not just a material.. Boss drop should be > craft items

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Woah this is another thing right here. If things are all crafted like the current NM drops it leads to people wanting another drop to get +1, +2. Pretty lame. :| EX/rares are needed besides onion set :P

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Time doesn't = skill and its time you "elite" players realised that.

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Odds are if someone has played a game 10 times longer than you they're going to be better at it. It's logic.

wow calm down. sign my mousepad pro

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Originally Posted by Visch

Woah this is another thing right here. If things are all crafted like the current NM drops it leads to people wanting another drop to get +1, +2. Pretty lame. :| EX/rares are needed besides onion set :P

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They have pretty much said that dungeons will offer untradeable gear, but i guess thats too lite for you.

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Odds are if someone has played a game 10 times longer than you they're going to be better at it. It's logic.

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There are many people I know from both WoW and FF11 who could disprove this.

In fact I have met quite a few people in this game with rank 50 classes and still don't know simple game mechanics.