Live Letter Thoughts

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Originally Posted by Jemachu

Just in case you didn't know, Yoshi P himself refers to 6.1 and beyond as season 2; this is the devs own terminology regarding the MSQ.

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I did NOT know.
If this is true, then alright I stand Corrected.....at the same time, it still sounds silly that 12 years of story telling is called 1 season XD

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

I did NOT know.
If this is true, then alright I stand Corrected.....at the same time, it still sounds silly that 12 years of story telling is called 1 season XD

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A season will typically have multiple plot points that continue into a subsequent season anyway, and there's no real objective need to discontinue said plot points simply because you don't think the cast is rough enough. It would be worse for them to drop the plot points or continue them many years later down the line, especially with the whole situation of shard travel that Y'shtola has been keen to do. It's a perfect time to really conclude these other stories anyway.

Further, a conclusion to an arc does not mean that references won't be made to characters involved in a said arc (e.g., Hydaelyn)

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

A season will typically have multiple plot points that continue into a subsequent season anyway, and there's no real objective need to discontinue said plot points simply because you don't think the cast is rough enough. It would be worse for them to drop the plot points or continue them many years later down the line, especially with the whole situation of shard travel that Y'shtola has been keen to do. It's a perfect time to really conclude these other stories anyway.

Further, a conclusion to an arc does not mean that references won't be made to characters involved in a said arc (e.g., Hydaelyn)

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There have been several plot points throughout these 12 years. Through, Arr, HW, SB, ShB & EW 6.0.
Thats like...idk, over 900 episodes. So no matter how you piece it, it just sounds weird all of that constitutes 1 season XD

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Originally Posted by Jemachu

Just in case you didn't know, Yoshi P himself refers to 6.1 and beyond as season 2; this is the devs own terminology regarding the MSQ.

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Can we get a source on this? Even during the special next 10 years live letter I don't remember him using the phrase.

Speaking of Arenvald, I wonder how many people TRULY care about his welfare and the once possibility of him being a Trust member and fully fledged Scion. I always did take issue with the fact that Square gave him one adventure/quest chain then proceeded to forget about him throughout all of Shadowbringers, only for his arc to culminate in his legs being fucked over and then relegated to fleeting side materiel.

To me, Arenvald is a prime example of how the dev team will even maim the so called "GOOD GUYS" just to prop up the main Scion team as exceptional Ubermensches. I cannot understate how disappointed I am in how they've mishandled his arc.

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Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai

Speaking of Arenvald, I wonder how many people TRULY care about his welfare and the once possibility of him being a Trust member and fully fledged Scion. I always did take issue with the fact that Square gave him one adventure/quest chain then proceeded to forget about him throughout all of Shadowbringers, only for his arc to culminate in his legs being fucked over and then relegated to fleeting side materiel.

To me, Arenvald is a prime example of how the dev team will even maim the so called "GOOD GUYS" just to prop up the main Scion team as exceptional Ubermensches. I cannot understate how disappointed I am in how they've mishandled his arc.

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Personally, I don't think they "mishandled" his arc at all - I've felt it's resonated well with me. Things happen that fundamentally change people. They've happened to the scions, too. Y'shtola lost her regular eyesight and now needs to use aether to "see." Thancred lost his ability to use magic in his trip through the lifestream. Yda/Lyse came to terms with who she is and now fights for Ala Mhigo instead of the scions. The dev team "maims" the scions, too, and turns some of them into side material. An expansion doesn't have to kill a major character to be good; then you devolve into killing someone off purely for the sake of killing someone off, and all that will do at this point in a long-running series like FFXIV is alienate fans.

If you haven't done so yet, I'd also encourage doing the Healer role quests in EW. Arenvald plays a major role there and is given significant development.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

If you haven't done so yet, I'd also encourage doing the Healer role quests in EW. Arenvald plays a major role there and is given significant development.

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I have not played those quests yet but this is going to give me an extra shove. Is Fordola in them too? I was hoping to see more from both of them in EW.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

I have not played those quests yet but this is going to give me an extra shove. Is Fordola in them too? I was hoping to see more from both of them in EW.

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Fordola is a Major part of the EW Healer Role Quest.
IMO, its pretty great. But I might be bias as a Healer main and a Fordola Fan.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Fordola is a Major part of the EW Healer Role Quest.
IMO, its pretty great. But I might be bias as a Healer main and a Fordola Fan.

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Awesome! Cheers for the info. Fordola is one of my fav NPCs so looking foward to that. Healer is a role I have only recently returned to, so I am cheating a little in useing my Summoner-leved SCH to do those quests haha.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

I have not played those quests yet but this is going to give me an extra shove. Is Fordola in them too? I was hoping to see more from both of them in EW.

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Yes, Fordola features prominently in the healer role quests and Arenvald is the backbone of them. He has always been strong of character and I think he's even moreso now in a wheelchair, which you'll see in that questline. He is certainly not idle or letting anything hold him back.

Arenvald is a lot like Keyoke ( Raymond E Feist and janny Wurts Servant of the Empire ), when her adviser is seriously injured and cannot fight, she makes him her Adviser for War, in short she makes him a General, his fighting days are over but what he KNOWS is invaluable.

Arenvald is the same, he may be confined to a wheelchair, doesnt mean he cant advise, teach...as a very famous soldier once said, all battles are first fought in the mind, later on the battlefield.

" As Tiberius soldiers remember, his drills are bloodless battles...his battles are bloody drills"

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

If you think gameplay is ass, why played that long to endwalker and all?

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Sadly gameplay design had lot of potential in ARR (meaningful 4men dungeons with actual strategies, raid bosses that had actual mechanics that didn't simply involve positionnals, actual tanking and healing gameplay with adds to handle during boss encounters)

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Gameplay haven’t changed though. Your job may had undergone some change and you dislike that, which is fine but the core gameplay been similar since 2013.

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No it isn't. Class weren't that homogeneised in 2013 and healing/tanking gameplay wasn't in shamble as it is now (and refer to my prior statement related to content design, one only has to run LoB to convince themselves about the evolution in the gameplay).

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Can we get a source on this? Even during the special next 10 years live letter I don't remember him using the phrase.

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I don't remember this either. In fact, "season" isn't a common terminology in Japan at all for anything related to shows. It's a very US thing that got spread around in the west.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

I don't remember this either. In fact, "season" isn't a common terminology in Japan at all for anything related to shows. It's a very US thing that got spread around in the west.

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They clearly have the concept of a show having seasons, though. There are twenty-year-old anime shows I've watched that have very definite seasons.

Surely they have a term for this kind of thing that would get translated as "season"? If they didn't borrow it outright.

I'm pretty sure I've seen him use it in interviews, and even if he hasn't, it's a term that is generally catching on at least in lore discussions here for the story arc after the Hydaelyn/Zodiark arc.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

They clearly have the concept of a show having seasons, though. There are twenty-year-old anime shows I've watched that have very definite seasons.

Surely they have a term for this kind of thing that would get translated as "season"? If they didn't borrow it outright.

I'm pretty sure I've seen him use it in interviews, and even if he hasn't, it's a term that is generally catching on at least in lore discussions here for the story arc after the Hydaelyn/Zodiark arc.

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Anime's having seasons is a pretty recent thing. Generally speaking anime's go by "cour's"

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Originally Posted by Striker44

Personally, I don't think they "mishandled" his arc at all - I've felt it's resonated well with me. Things happen that fundamentally change people. They've happened to the scions, too. Y'shtola lost her regular eyesight and now needs to use aether to "see." Thancred lost his ability to use magic in his trip through the lifestream. Yda/Lyse came to terms with who she is and now fights for Ala Mhigo instead of the scions. The dev team "maims" the scions, too, and turns some of them into side material. An expansion doesn't have to kill a major character to be good; then you devolve into killing someone off purely for the sake of killing someone off, and all that will do at this point in a long-running series like FFXIV is alienate fans.

If you haven't done so yet, I'd also encourage doing the Healer role quests in EW. Arenvald plays a major role there and is given significant development.

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I think it's kinda odd that you'd bring up Y'shtola of all people, since she's a prime example of how nothing bad ever truly happens to the Scion main cast. Lost her eyesight, you kidding?! That may as well be flavor text for all it's mattered, she can aim her Black Mage spells with the utmost alacrity and they've utterly forgotten the implications she was using her life-force to see with aether. For all the game likes to play up how supremely reckless Y'shtola is, quite literally nothing ever comes of her candor.

It's part and parcel of the point I'm attempting to make, that the difference is the Scions can still adventure and fight whereas Arenvald is relegated to being a glorified secretary. Unless the Ironworks gets off their asses and makes him some Magitek legs a la Professor Xavier, I can't see any reason for this development when Arenvald could easily have been one of our new Trust members in the upcoming Season 2 storyline. But nay, what are the odds when we already have someone who lost a limb and it didn't get replaced (looking at YOU, Raubahn!)?