How does SE justify these ten min enrages, but doesnt let anyone know their dps

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Originally Posted by akaneakki

Ok, so someone posted your bad logs then 4 weeks later it's still the same result, whos fault is that?

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Well the very thread is stating that really nobody knows their dps, outside of pc users. I dont know how it effects others but on ps4 like Im not going all out tryin to do amazing stuff when I havent a clue whats going on anyway.

When I was on pc I always wanted to make sure my numbers where good, on ps4 I just want to clear the content. Call me bad I dont really care because Ive always hashed out my own path in the game as is, and do most things alone anyway. So If im in a pug group and Im tanking and Ive seen where healers let people die in certain situations like twin bolts, in laksimi ex when ur getting hit wit pull of light and have to get vril as well, or susanos tank cleave. Yea I am not really stressing my dps if Im on ps4 and cant even see it anyway. But again people that act like pug life and doing stuff in a static are one in the same are funny.

I'll forever call YoshiP crazy for not having a personal parser that only shows your dps. He says they won't do it because then others will ask/force you to tell them your dps but if people wanted to know your dps that badly, they'd use ACT. You're only screwing over PS4 players by refusing to implement a personal dps meter.

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Originally Posted by AziraSyuren

It's not the fault of other people for caring- It's your fault that you don't care. Kicking you from a Susano party is more than a little petty, sure, because it's braindead-easy content that anyone with half a brain and attention span can clear on, but if your results are garbage, and you're afraid of being judged, it's up to you to fix them. Hiding your parses actually looks worse than having bad ones, and for good reason. Flush out the bad runs with good ones so people aren't wondering if you're worth their time.

FFlogs is a résumé. While it isn't the end-all-be-all for player skill, it, at the very least, shows how much someone cares. If you don't care, and I'm doing serious content (usually restricted to Savage), I don't want you in my party.

...I mean, to be clear, I won't kick someone just because of low DPS on fflogs, but it certainly gives me context to judge them for their mistakes.

Let your results speak for themselves. I know mine do.

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Think your misunderstanding a little. I play my jobs well most of the time. Have off days but who doesn't. But if I've cleared something 40 or more times and only 2 of those are represented on fflogs how is that in anyway an accurate indication of my performance.

The way I see it I have two options.
Option 1 just hide myself from fflogs cos while I do care about my performance I really don't care about epeening it or bragging rights or competing with heavily padded results. if that looks bad to some people then chances are they're not people i want to play with anyway..

Option 2 as you say is to let my results speak for themselves. which would mean start parsing absolutely everything I do and uploading every single thing to fflogs in order to flush out 1 or 2 bad runs. Fooq dat to much work. It's impossible anyway as i frequently jump between pc and ps4 depending on where I am..

This again highlights why i'm anti parser simply because of that kind of mentality. Because I don't give a dam about fflogs doesn't mean I don't give a dam about playing my jobs well.

Just because i don't do option 2. people think option 1 is an accurate representation of my abilities as a player... which is incredibly innacurate

you mentioned a resume... so in a similar sense if I an employer looked at my resume and employer references and just saw my attendance at work for the last 12 months was 65% there's no way i'd get the job.

if though that employer asked or looked into it and found my attendance for the last 12 months was 65% due to a serious car accident or something having me in hospital for 4 months then that 65% attendance looks a lot better. other than that serious accident I was never off sick.. which would also explain how I kept my job for 5 years. because if 65% was an accurate representation of my long term attendance there's no way i'd have kept my job for 5 years.

The problem with fflogs is that it's innacurate. Players don't read it correctly.. friend of mine is recently 70 samurai wanted to compare his dps to mine so we queued v1 normal. I came out of that with a little under 4k dps. which if you looked at fflogs would put me around the 55th percentile for that fight. it probably should have been a bit more cos that fight is honestly very high on uptime.

anyway I did that in a duty finder party of 3sams a red mage 2 whm a paladin and a dark.... so offensive utility was non existant..

Had I played at that exact same level in a much better party composition my dps could have possibly been 4.5k maybe even more if the party had trick attacks, balance, chain strategems, battle litany, any other buffs I haven't listed. (I think estimating a possible 500extra dps from all the party utility is fairly reasonable) and that would have put me at the 86th percentile. that's a massive difference of over 30% even though my level of play would be exactly the same my results would be massively different.

this is why I just don't care for fflogs because ultimately whether I'm in the 86th percentile or the 55th percentile isn't really down to me and how I play it's down to the 7 people i'm partied with..

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Originally Posted by Dzian

Think your misunderstanding a little. I play my jobs well most of the time. Have off days but who doesn't. But if I've cleared something 40 or more times and only 2 of those are represented on fflogs how is that in anyway an accurate indication of my performance.

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While Im 100 percent for parses I am def not huge on fflogs for the very logical reasons ur giving, but some people are addicted to this whole concept so I say just let them have it.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

Well the very thread is stating that really nobody knows their dps, outside of pc users. I dont know how it effects others but on ps4 like Im not going all out tryin to do amazing stuff when I havent a clue whats going on anyway..

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I'm not saying pugs or expect pugs to play great as a static, but you see.... the difference with your attitude and japanese is that japanese players comes prepared and know what to do. It doesn't matter if they are on ps4 or pc. I'm not going to call you bad, because I can't judge you when I never seen you play, however, you make it sound like you can slack just because you are on ps4 and then you say you can just slack off and make everyone else make up for it. Which is a very unfair attitude and selfish one at the same time.