Novus weapon upgrade system findings

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06-08-2014, 11:45 PM
Shea

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Originally Posted by Felis

So the succesrate of melding reset to 100% when the turn of the next materia tier start?

Yes 10chars
06-09-2014, 01:14 AM
Shea

Infuse 14(15) on Sphere Scroll: Stardust rod with Savage Might II Materia. Chance 60% Results: +1 Det Infuse 15 will require a Grade 2 materia.
06-09-2014, 10:48 AM
Shea

Infuse 15(16) on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod with Savage Might II Materia. Chance 50% Results:+1 Det(Failures =( 6) Infuse 16 will require a Grade 3 materia.
06-09-2014, 01:56 PM
Zumi

Anyone finish one yet I want to see what a finished weapon looks like.
06-09-2014, 03:50 PM
Kajukai

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Anyone finish one yet I want to see what a finished weapon looks like.

http://i.imgur.com/Y5RB6ew.png
06-09-2014, 04:28 PM
Dano

so irregardless of the materia grade, every upgrade will only result in +1 to the stat. So pretty much you need 75 alexs to complete the novus.
06-09-2014, 04:39 PM
LunarEmerald

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Anyone finish one yet I want to see what a finished weapon looks like.

People are approaching the 20s. It's gonna be another 2 or so weeks before anyone has a completed one.
06-09-2014, 04:44 PM
Nekodar

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

People are approaching the 20s. It's gonna be another 2 or so weeks before anyone has a completed one.

Shields are likely to show up any day now...
06-09-2014, 04:45 PM
LadyVal

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Originally Posted by Kajukai

http://i.imgur.com/Y5RB6ew.png

I really hope the books don't glow gold, I can't imagine it would look good. :(
06-09-2014, 05:05 PM
Zumi

That's 2.3 stuff so is that novus or something else. I am 14/53 personally but its going to be awhile for sure. Someone may be doing shield and be close to done.
06-09-2014, 05:20 PM
Shaemus_Jodocus

I have done fates past 2 days 10 hours total and i have gotten 0 alexandrite. i have been wearing my animus and i have jumped through many zones doing it with a friend who needs atma. my friend has gotten 5 atma.. i am looking for people to confirm what zones alex drops from or just to tell me they have at least gotten a drop from a fate... any information on obtaining alex from doing fate would be greatly appreciated.
06-09-2014, 05:52 PM
TomTom1968

Something that is still unclear to me..my weapon has 4 stats, 2 main and 2 secondary stats. By upgrading to Novus, is it possible to add a fifth stat or better said a 3rd secondary stat? Or can I only replace the 2 secondary stats I have on it? I am not sure, in the quest they said something about 5 scrolls or something.
06-09-2014, 06:24 PM
Itseotle

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Something that is still unclear to me..my weapon has 4 stats, 2 main and 2 secondary stats. By upgrading to Novus, is it possible to add a fifth stat or better said a 3rd secondary stat? Or can I only replace the 2 secondary stats I have on it? I am not sure, in the quest they said something about 5 scrolls or something.

You can add any combination of stats that are listed on your scroll, up to a maximum of 5 types of stats. The number that they cap at will lower as you increase the variety of stats.
06-09-2014, 06:41 PM
Kaze3434

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Originally Posted by Dano

so regardless of the materia grade, every upgrade will only result in +1 to the stat. So pretty much you need 75 alexs to complete the novus.

how do people still do that?
06-09-2014, 06:46 PM
Behb

Until yesterday, I've done 6 hours fate farm for only 3 alexandrite, and this morning I just hit one fate before going to work and got one...
RNG is madness!

@Shaemus_Jodocus : FYI i got 1 in coerthas, 2 in central noscea, 1 in Mor dhona. But you can drop it everywhere.
06-09-2014, 06:54 PM
TomTom1968

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

You can add any combination of stats that are listed on your scroll, up to a maximum of 5 types of stats. The number that they cap at will lower as you increase the variety of stats.

Excellent, thanks for clarifying.
06-09-2014, 08:55 PM
Shea

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Originally Posted by Behb

Until yesterday, I've done 6 hours fate farm for only 3 alexandrite, and this morning I just hit one fate before going to work and got one...
RNG is madness!

@Shaemus_Jodocus : FYI i got 1 in coerthas, 2 in central noscea, 1 in Mor dhona. But you can drop it everywhere.

You are lucky =) I farmed for 7 hours got 1 in Western La Noscea
06-09-2014, 10:54 PM
Shea

Infuse 16(17) on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod with Savage Might III Materia. Chance 100% Results:+1 Det Infuse 17 will require a Grade 3 materia.
06-09-2014, 10:56 PM
Behb

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Originally Posted by Shea

Infuse 16(17) on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod with Savage Might III Materia. Chance 100% Results:+1 Det Infuse 17 will require a Grade 3 materia.

You are farming mytho as hell then ? xD
Be careful you may get brain damages !
06-09-2014, 11:10 PM
BobbinT

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Originally Posted by Kajukai

http://i.imgur.com/Y5RB6ew.png

picture's too blurry to see any detail. probably gonna wait till someone finally get one and post pics.
06-10-2014, 12:55 AM
Shea

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Originally Posted by Behb

You are farming mytho as hell then ? xD
Be careful you may get brain damages !

Myth....da myth is life.
06-10-2014, 01:47 AM
Ginga_K

Well a guess is if u look at weapon bss ilvl fm DataBase

Drg Zenith Phy dmg 46, Pri 66 sec 63
Allagan Spear Phy dmg 47, Pri 73, sec 55
Drg Zenith Animus Phy dmg 49, Pri 79, sec 68
Liberator Phy dmg 51, Pri 91, sec 66
Drg Zenith Novus Phy dmg 51, Pri 91, sec ??-> scroll?
High Allagan Phy Dmg 53, Pri 98, sec 64

+++
Let see wat he says @ E3
06-10-2014, 01:57 AM
Ecks007

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

picture's too blurry to see any detail. probably gonna wait till someone finally get one and post pics.

Should have seen it live. It looked pretty awesome.
06-10-2014, 02:15 AM
Arrak

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Originally Posted by Dano

so irregardless of the materia grade, every upgrade will only result in +1 to the stat. So pretty much you need 75 alexs to complete the novus.

Unless something changes with IV materia, that's what its looking like. I should be close to having to use IV today. I'll post what happens.
06-10-2014, 02:16 AM
Cyrus-Wallace

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Originally Posted by Arrak

Unless something changes with IV materia, that's what its looking like. I should be close to having to use IV today. I'll post what happens.

Probably the same. For some reason, I don't keep my hopes up with that...
06-10-2014, 02:20 AM
Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri

You're better off farming the 800 myth for alexandrite. Got my first alex from fates after 204 fates placing the percentage at 0.5% 1% max. Ridiculous.
06-10-2014, 03:04 AM
Arkista

Just to add Spharai Only did x5 melds T1 Crit but all had 100% on them.
06-10-2014, 03:13 AM
Shea

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Just to add Spharai Only did x5 melds T1 Crit but all had 100% on them.

Huh wonder why det has dec %, cuz it's weighted more?
06-10-2014, 03:15 AM
Arkista

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Originally Posted by Shea

Huh wonder why det has dec %, cuz it's weighted more?

Probably, I have 3 more I can do now but to busy.
06-10-2014, 03:19 AM
JayCommon

Yeah I started with Accuracy on Artemis Bow sphere scroll. Have done 5 melds of t1 acc and all have been 100% meld chance so far.
06-10-2014, 03:31 AM
KrenianKandos

A) It's worth the time if you want to do it and if it's honestly the best weapon you can go for.

B) It's not worth the time if you're clearing the Second Coil of Bahamut effectively.

The weapon was made as an alternative grind for those who can't conceivably do the Second Coil.

I'll enjoy my time with the grind and do it as slow and steady as I am because this is my best weapon at this time. I don't really raid nor do I honestly have much of a passion nowadays to raid (I've done the hardcore raiding before and I'm over it now), so I`m just happy there is something to strive for. To me, it's a marathon, in the end. And if anyone has ever run a marathon, they will understand the basis of this argument.

Just don't get the fascination and the 'need' to rush through this. No wonder some of you are getting frustrated/burning out.

NOTE: This is NOT me stating that the road to finish Novus is a good one. I don't agree with some aspects, but I don't honestly care enough to bitch about them.
06-10-2014, 03:51 AM
Arrak

1.) I, 100%
2.) I, 100%
3.) I, 80%
4.) I, 60%
5.) II, 100%
6,) II, 100%
7.) II, 80%
8.) III, 100%
9.) III, 100%
10.) III, 80%
11.) IV, 100%
12.) IV, ??
13.) IV, ??

Someone good with numbers can try to convert that from shield to the full 44 stat upgrade on other weapons. And yes, IV is only one stat point. =x
06-10-2014, 03:55 AM
Ecks007

Um, I'm just curious. So far on my Sphere scroll for my Smn book I've put in 7 tier 1 Acc materia, and have not yet been able to put in a tier 2. How does that work? I thought I'd be putting in tier 2 after the 4th or 5th, but so far no luck.
06-10-2014, 03:58 AM
Vahlnir

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Um, I'm just curious. So far on my Sphere scroll for my Smn book I've put in 7 tier 1 Acc materia, and have not yet been able to put in a tier 2. How does that work? I thought I'd be putting in tier 2 after the 4th or 5th, but so far no luck.

From what I've heard it works in tiers. Once you put in enough 1s, you head to 2s, then 3s and 4s. If someone else could elaborate and/or correct me if I'm wrong I'm curious as well.
06-10-2014, 03:59 AM
Arrak

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

From what I've heard it works in tiers. Once you put in enough 1s, you head to 2s, then 3s and 4s. If someone else could elaborate and/or correct me if I'm wrong I'm curious as well.

That's how it works. The number needed for each tier is different depending on the stat and whether or not its normal weapon, Curtana, or Holy Shield.
06-10-2014, 04:00 AM
Ecks007

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

From what I've heard it works in tiers. Once you put in enough 1s, you head to 2s, then 3s and 4s. If someone else could elaborate and/or correct me if I'm wrong I'm curious as well.

Well I thought so, or do you mean I need to put in more 1s but for my other stats that I want in there before 2s slots are available?

I was under the impression it would work at 1 type of materia at a time.
06-10-2014, 04:00 AM
Vahlnir

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Originally Posted by Arrak

That's how it works. The number needed for each tier is different depending on the stat and whether or not its normal weapon, Curtana, or Holy Shield.

Oh ok, thank you very much.

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Originally Posted by Ecks007

Well I thought so, or do you mean I need to put in more 1s but for my other stats that I want in there before 2s slots are available?

I was under the impression it would work at 1 type of materia at a time.

Yeah, you will need to put in as many materia as you can into the first set consisting of grade 1s, then proceed to do the same with grade 2s, and so on. The amount you need is dependent on the stats you are changing.
06-10-2014, 04:08 AM
Arrak

So if 11 materia per tier is correct, then Curtana will be 7 Is, 8 IIs, 8 III, 8 IVs for the 44 (31/13) stat?
06-10-2014, 04:14 AM
Nekodar

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Originally Posted by Arrak

So if 11 materia per tier is correct, then Curtana will be 7 Is, 8 IIs, 8 III, 8 IVs for the 44 (31/13) stat?

Yes.

/10char
06-10-2014, 04:30 AM
Giantbane

So do DET/Piety really give a whole stat point and only use up 1/75 of the sphere scroll capacity?

If that's the case, it seems like any class that wants one of those two stats should stick them on the relic since they're usually more valuable than other stats on a point per point basis, but don't suffer from the weighting penalty that's usually applied when those stats are on other pieces of gear.

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