PlayStation 3 version: Why Bother?

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Originally Posted by Yolteotl

HDLoader wasn't a game, it was a pirating/savedata utility

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Had nothing to do with save data. Fact is, it wasn't for pirating either. It was for backing up your games. Sure, you could use it for piracy if you went to blockbuster or the likes. Fact remains, it was in NA, and it did use the HDD. Regardless if it was a game or not, it allowed other games to utilize the HDD.

Also, Resident Evil: Outbreak if you really want to be a bitch about it. ^^

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Originally Posted by ChiyoKatsui

Had nothing to do with save data. Fact is, it wasn't for pirating either. It was for backing up your games. Sure, you could use it for piracy if you went to blockbuster or the likes. Fact remains, it was in NA, and it did use the HDD. Regardless if it was a game or not, it allowed other games to utilize the HDD.

Also, Resident Evil: Outbreak if you really want to be a bitch about it. ^^

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Had no idea about Resident Evil.

HDLoader was used to play games through the HDD or on burned iso which was primarily used for pirating, to install save data people download off the internet from other people, and to transfer save data to a ps3 without having the memory card adapter.

No, its not. I have HDLoader. The only thing the real HDLoader does, is allow you to backup games from pressed discs. Not burnt ones, and nothing to do with saves. If you're still going to tell me I'm wrong, I'll make a video, showing my disc, and ripping my ps2 apart to show no mod chip, take out the memory card and shit and show you.

You're talking about uLaunch and FreeMCBoot. Something completely different. Neither were ever released on a pressed disc, that played just by putting it in the drive like a ps2 game, without a mod chip. Also, there were many more games in NA that used the HDD for various features. Some sports games used it as well. Idr which ones tho.

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Originally Posted by ChiyoKatsui

No, its not. I have HDLoader. The only thing the real HDLoader does, is allow you to backup games from pressed discs. Not burnt ones, and nothing to do with saves. If you're still going to tell me I'm wrong, I'll make a video, showing my disc, and ripping my ps2 apart to show no mod chip, take out the memory card and shit and show you.

You're talking about uLaunch and FreeMCBoot. Something completely different. Neither were ever released on a pressed disc, that played just by putting it in the drive like a ps2 game, without a mod chip. Also, there were many more games in NA that used the HDD for various features. Some sports games used it as well. Idr which ones tho.

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Doh yea, guess I did clump em all 3 of those together, been so long ago.

I guess the reason I thought FFXI was the only game that used the HDD was because it was the only game that provided a HDD and Sony never distrubuted them individually. I did use my HDD a ton aside from FFXI, but just to store all my save files which was nice.

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Originally Posted by Yolteotl

Doh yea, guess I did clump em all 3 of those together, been so long ago.

I guess the reason I thought FFXI was the only game that used the HDD was because it was the only game that provided a HDD and Sony never distrubuted them individually. I did use my HDD a ton aside from FFXI, but just to store all my save files which was nice.

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Yea, the fact that it showed up in the PS2 Browser to copy saves was nice. Too bad they never added a module to the elf the hdd loaded on boot to add the hdd as a load/save destination in games, rather than just to backup saves from the ps2 browser. I kept hopeing for a software update disc to add that function, but it never came :(

There's an untapped audience that's been waiting for FF14 for PS3 since it's been announced. I couldn't tell you what it costs them to convert their assets to work on the PS3, but being that it's "highly scalable" I'm sure it'll be offset within a reasonable amount of time with the subscribers it brings.

Yea I know ALOT of people who plan on trying the game out on PS3 but they never had any interest to play it on PC cause they just dont like to keep their computer tied up running a game. And there are no true competitors in the MMORPG market on consoles (except FFXI on 360) at least for a while. DCUO and Dust arent RPGs and arent made very well. Unlike when FFXI came out, MMORPG is its own powerful entity in the gaming industry and understood by a majority of gamers now. SE has the potential to tap into a massive sector of the gaming market and at the same time revitalize the players' expectations of the Final Fantasy franchise, IF they do well on producing the PS3 version of the game.

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

Final Fantasy XI was released for the PlayStation 2 first before other platforms, during the height of that console's popularity. The PS2 slim hadn't even been announced yet. And yet today, the PS2 version of Seekers of Adoulin will not be released in North America, and in general it is the PC version that seems to get the most support and attention from Square-Enix.

Now we have ARR on the horizon. 1.0, at least, was written for and graced the PC first. Meanwhile, all indications are the next PlayStation will be announced by the time ARR hits shelves; and there's certainly no guarantee that Sony's next console will play PS3 games.

With the cards already stacked against the PS3 version, and with the history of FFXI showing that support for console versions will get axed well before the PC version, why is Square-Enix bothering with releasing the PS3 version of the game at all at this point? And why should players make the commitment of buying the PS3 version when history shows they'll just have to move to the PC eventually anyway?

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While I hope they DO port it over to the ps4 after a time, its important they keep their word and bring it to the ps3. Its as simple as that. They said they were going to do something, then they should do it.

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

No full-budget, current-gen FF games can be bought for download from PSN. "Can" isn't the same as "will."

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But there is DLC for FFXIII-2, an expansion is just larger scale DLC, or if they really wanted they just use a disk, install the expansion and run it off the latest expansion disk, but I see PS store happening.

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All the more reason to abandon any PS3 players at that time. "Just upgrade!"

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I think I see why you aren't running a business, if the custom is on PS3 they will stick to it how many companies do you know say "OK these 70 million potential customers don't matter, I want to focus everything on these 4 million people with more money than sense" if people are playing the PS3 version they will continue to support it, whilst supporting a PS4 version as well if the custom is there, as long as they can justify the increased costs with subscriptions they will do this.

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I would wager that more HDD-capable PS2's were sold than PS3 units in total. On top of that, there were also the backwards-compatible PS3's, which meant a published PS2 title could be played on both platforms. Indications are that the next PlayStation will not play PS3 games, which can only discourage PS3 publishing once the new system is out.

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You are just sounding clueless now if a company can make money from the PS3 they will make games for it, the market for a brand new console is always small, not many people (in the grand scheme of things) can afford them, so they wait for the price to come down, happily playing their PS3 until that time, then they buy a PS4.

You seem to be under the dillusion that all companies say "OMFG ITS NEW WE GOTTA LEAVE THE OLD ONE!!!" It's very likely that the PS3 will continue to be supported for at least 3 years after the PS4 release, it all depends how sales go. For all we know the PS4 could become Sony's Dreamcast, then do you think it would be a good idea to release a PS4 version and forget the PS3?

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Originally Posted by Delsus

there is DLC for FFXIII-2

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For a lot of fans, you just opened a can of worms with those 5 words.

Let's pay to see the ending instead of it saying to be continued. Fuck that.