Genuine Question Here

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Originally Posted by thevanguard

I can't believe I'm saying this but VelKallor probably actually contributes to game discussion in a thoughtful way more than 80% of the people in this thread who basically never discuss anything and just participate in drama threads or post some meme lmao

If we replace you people with 50 aveyonds and 50 VelKallors the forum quality will unironically go up

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The duality of humanity.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

People shouldn't be name-calling like that for a difference of opinion. That said, your last sentence seems to imply that you think it's not possible to understand your point of view and still disagree. You sound like the only way someone can show they understand your point of view is by agreeing with it. Again, attacks are uncalled for. But insisting on agreement as acknowledgment of your point of view may tell you why you're getting push back on it.

As to the OP, why should anyone care if one side or the other does want dissent to leave? That's not the point of a forum intended for open discussion.

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I am not advoocating for them "switching sides" or any such thing. More them saying "Both sides may have some bit of rightness in this" I won't name names, but some of the quote unquote "lore hounds" on this forum can't admit they might be wrong even when they are shown canon sources that support our point and that is a problem.

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Originally Posted by thevanguard

I can't believe I'm saying this but VelKallor probably actually contributes to game discussion in a thoughtful way more than 80% of the people in this thread who basically never discuss anything and just participate in drama threads or post some meme lmao

If we replace you people with 50 aveyonds and 50 VelKallors the forum quality will unironically go up

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Rofl. How bout you just take a brief gander at your own post history. 90 percent drama, maybe more. Including the very comment I quoted.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

I think you completely miss the point of the question. It's not a question of people caring about others leaving...its the fact that it would seem counterpoints are drowning out what people feel are game issues. Some claiming theyre being silenced so I'm asking if these folks would prefer those who don't share their view to leave. And if not how do we find a compromise of fairness in how we go about our feedback. You're on a whole different thought plain

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They're not being silenced, though. We hear from them all the time. Why is any sort of compromise necessary besides everyone behaving like adults and debating civilly without resorting to name-calling and agreeing to disagree if someone doesn't share their view?

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

I am not advoocating for them "switching sides" or any such thing. More them saying "Both sides may have some bit of rightness in this" I won't name names, but some of the quote unquote "lore hounds" on this forum can't admit they might be wrong even when they are shown canon sources that support our point and that is a problem.

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What if they don't feel that? You don't want their honesty. You just want them to say what you want them to say. It is possible to view the same content and have differing viewpoints on it.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Rofl. How bout you just take a brief gander at your own post history. 90 percent drama, maybe more. Including the very comment I quoted.

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lol what kind of gotcha is that? i'm literally here just for drama. your post history though is full of shitposts like these

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Too bad for you, I have quite high reading comprehension. It's why I tested in the top 1% of the country for my law school exams.

Under your logic, nobody asked and nobody cares when people bring up their opinions of what's wrong with the game either. The trend of people telling others "nobody asked, nobody cares" on this forum is unproductive and outright rude.

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you though, 90% of your posts are "omg this forum is so toxic i blocked everyone" then the next post you're talking about forum drama and replying to people you """blocked"""

Oh and + "omg this forum is so toxic I'm quitting then next day you make 10 posts in a drama thread

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Originally Posted by thevanguard

lol what kind of gotcha is that? i'm literally here just for drama. your post history though is full of shitposts like these



you though, 90% of your posts are "omg this forum is so toxic i blocked everyone" then the next post you're talking about forum drama and replying to people you """blocked"""

Oh and + "omg this forum is so toxic I'm quitting then next day you make 10 posts in a drama thread

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I never said I’m quitting. I said I post less often. Learn to read. You’re quite bad at it. I also didn’t post ten times in this thread in one day. Learn to count. Sorry I can’t be bothered to look up and block all your endless alts in advance. You simply aren’t that important to me any longer. I see you for what you are. A nuisance and likely sad individual. I hope one day you find more happiness and meaning than annoying the small number of people who use a video game forum.

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Oh In case it’s not clear since you can’t seem to follow or understand, you posted “you people” as though you somehow were separate from the problem. You are not. You admit to it here while pretending in the post I quoted that you aren’t. In fact you are singularly responsible for the most drama here. It’s why I won’t post in your threads anymore. So it’s laughable you pretended to be on a soapbox about it while excluding your role in it all. That’s the gotcha. Happy now?

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

They're not being silenced, though. We hear from them all the time. Why is any sort of compromise necessary besides everyone behaving like adults and debating civilly without resorting to name-calling and agreeing to disagree if someone doesn't share their view?.

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Well if you haven't noticed folks simply being civil isn't in the cards for the place. It'd be nice just to have that but It doesn't seem feasible, at least without more moderation. So I simply asked a question of different possible avenues. I asked this, others suggest shutting the forums down for a time. Some suggest super strict moderation.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

That’s the gotcha. Happy now?

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You're only making it worse by continuing to address him.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

You have requoted that about 7 or 8 times now? Something I posted once months ago? Get over your obsession with me.

And I'm not mad. I think you are probably the most revolting, unappealing person desparately grasping for what little attention you can get out of anyone - the best you can do is random people on a gaming forum. Sad. So why would I be mad again?



Don't care anymore, really. I'm not going to tiptoe around this person just because of responses like this. I already avoid his threads, I'm not even willing to be one of those people who bump all of his threads with "oh your feeding him" comments that he gets every time. He's insignificant.

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You may not care but I do. You're derailing the thread and I kindly ask you to take that elsewhere. Doesn't matter if I partially agree with you or not. I have to be consistent. You say he's insignificant yet you keep wasting time talking to him. Makes no sense

To address your next post. I already addressed him earlier and plan to no longer engage. Your "aren't you derailing by calling me out on derailing" is just deflection. Let's not do that here please...

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Originally Posted by thevanguard

If we replace you people with 50 aveyonds and 50 VelKallors the forum quality will unironically go up

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Oh god, please no. A world with FIFTY VelKallors is a world not worth living in. One is bad enough.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

I am not advoocating for them "switching sides" or any such thing. More them saying "Both sides may have some bit of rightness in this" I won't name names, but some of the quote unquote "lore hounds" on this forum can't admit they might be wrong even when they are shown canon sources that support our point and that is a problem.

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I've been on the lore forum in the past and this assessment is correct.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

You're only making it worse by continuing to address him.

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True.

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Originally Posted by thevanguard

The difference, Mr. 174 LSAT, is that I enjoy the drama while you pretend you don't while replying to drama over and over again.

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The drama is entertaining...

Pray carry on with your mission good sir.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

The drama is entertaining...
Pray carry on with your mission good sir.

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And this is why it never stops.
Because it is encouraged and Rewarded.
lol