Excessive maintenance is starting to piss off the casual, non-raiding players.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

they will get over it.

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*look at what other large companies like Ubisoft, EA, Bamco, ect. are getting away with*
Yeah... the average person will probably get over it... again... :/

I trust they know when maintenance is necessary. So we’ll just have to have some patience.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Most of the maintenance is in the middle of the night US time (don't know your timezone). It won't affect the majority of the playerbase.

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This is a troll thread but just on this specific point, 7pm to 10pm isn't the middle of the night. The latter half of the patch gets into that, but a big part is prime NA time.

Maint's gonna maint so we just go play something else. I'm Eastern so I get a bit more time but I feel sorry for the Pacific folks who may or may not even be home from work yet.

Maintenance is going to happen friend a lot of times it doesn't happen when we want it to and we just have to go with the flow and move on. Just remember they give ample warning usually when it's going to happen at least 24-48hr notice before.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

And XIV. XIV regularly goes without maintenance for weeks

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Server typically goes down for a little while every week here recently. I can't think of a time it hasn't.

*extended* maintenance is reserved for patches. Hell, I didn't even know there was a patch til this morning and I'm just like "meh"(I'm in EU, downtime goes til noon).

I vote for more maintenance. I get to log off and read random thoughts from you people.

'member when text based games had daily hour-long maintenance's?

A certain farm members.

maintenance is trying to make the game better. Who do not want the game you play get better?
Why getting pissed off to causal player is not fine, but raider is ok?!!! The is really weird concept

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Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya

I'm a hardcore player and I raid, therefore my opinion on the matter holds no value.
However I have some friends who don't raid or play as often as I do

We have had in the last 3 weeks, 3 maintenance periods, and it started to affect those casual players too.
They don't play every day like I do but they also have goals they want to accomplish
For example, one of my friends missed out on getting his island bike mount because he couldn't retrieve granary materials or animal droppings in time to start the new cycle this week due to last week's maintenance.

I do not believe this is a good idea.
It is acceptable to fuck over raiders since they are not worth anything to the game, but pissing off the casual, paying audience is going to paint a really bad picture of the game to them.

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This is a game as a service. It is to be expected that we get maintenances. We do not deserve any compensation. What we do deserve is shorter bugfix maintenance times. We used to see 2-3 hour hotfix maintenance timings. Now we are starting to get closer to FFXI 5+ hour maintenances.

Tonight's changes to HP and damage values should not have had to be 5 hours.

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Originally Posted by niwaar

This is a game as a service. It is to be expected that we get maintenances. We do not deserve any compensation. What we do deserve is shorter bugfix maintenance times. We used to see 2-3 hour hotfix maintenance timings. Now we are starting to get closer to FFXI 5+ hour maintenances.

Tonight's changes to HP and damage values should not have had to be 5 hours.

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As the game is getting bigger, the complexity of code increase dramatically. Do not forget there is resolved issue changes as well, not just those two major changes. Even that is the case, you need to ensure the code you deployed work and also the infrastructure is all good before release to the player

Maint. Tonight is the patch and Infrastructure work. Thats why its longer then normal.