What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

"I'm used to mommy telling me my opinion was important." - the thread.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

No one important died or even faced any consequences. Numerous plot threads just dropped that might’ve actually put some stakes into the story(yshtola’s life draining from heavensward for example. Just completely dropped cuz can’t kill off any scions lul.)

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Moenbryda, Minfilia, and Papalymo say otherwise. Just none since.

my olny compliant is during the last leg before you get tot he final zone. tje end of days hits 2 zones. as we are waiting for the speical ore to arrvie the end days shoudl have it all znoes adn you alone ran off to try adn stem the tide tot he point were city state leaders are tell you to slow down or your burn yourself out. i know the role quest kinda do that but they don't feel as omg we in deep truble.

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Originally Posted by Braven_Doomdraft

"I'm used to mommy telling me my opinion was important." - the thread.

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Just you, really.

I do have issues with the story but I am hopeful for the future. Garlemald and the Primals / Eikons have consumed our attention for the past 8 years.

Hoping they can move forward in a good way because power creep is real.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Moenbryda, Minfilia, and Papalymo say otherwise. Just none since.

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When did they die in Endwalker? I was talking strictly endwalker. And yes none since that’s my point. We haven’t had any meaningful consequences or deaths since Heavensward, everything after that is riddled with severe plot armor.

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Originally Posted by Ryaz

Its honestly only here on the official forums where the hate seems to be more concentrated. Reddit, YouTube and every Facebook page I'm subscribed to seems to love it. Hell, it's still at 91% critical rating and 94% user rating on Metacritic (and one of the user scores is actually a mistake where he gave it a zero but praised the entire game).

The forums just seems to have a very vocal minority. Honestly, most posts on the forums seem to do nothing but criticize the game. The place is a ****show most of the time with very little in the way of productive discussion.

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Yes, the less than 1% population that has highly rated the game clearly is a better representation than the other less than 1% population that has criticisms of the game.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

When did they die in Endwalker? I was talking strictly endwalker. And yes none since that’s my point. We haven’t had any meaningful consequences or deaths since Heavensward, everything after that is riddled with severe plot armor.

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A good story does not requires someone to die.
That type of story flow is considered 3rd rated script writers and will only create problem when story goes too long.
Just look at World of Warcraft, they let their key characters dies for no reason just for dramatic effect for that one patch, what a joke.
Illidan died then resurrected
Arthas died then resurrected
etc etc
Isn't they planning to bring back someone we killed last expansion already?

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

A good story does not requires someone to die.
That type of story flow is considered 3rd rated script writers and will only create problem when story goes too long.
Just look at World of Warcraft, they let their key characters dies for no reason just for dramatic effect for that one patch, what a joke.

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No, but considering the most popular ff games are the ones where some of the main cast members died, i don’t think it’s coincidental. Disregarding that however, when you have a threat like a world ending apocalypse, you need to add some stakes. Plot armor doesn’t make a good story either, and yet this game is riddled with it. It disrupts the so called “story flow” quite a lot actually. When you constantly do death fake-outs, it just makes those moments meaningless for most. All this expansion really did is emotionally manipulate people and so it’s considered amazing for that. There’s a world ending apocalypse? Don’t worry the main cast is immortal so it’s not a threat. Let’s have a lunch date while another country is being tormented by beasts. 10/10 “story flow”

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

No, but considering the most popular ff games are the ones where some of the main cast members died, i don’t think it’s coincidental. Disregarding that however, when you have a threat like a world ending apocalypse, you need to add some stakes. Plot armor doesn’t make a good story either, and yet this game is riddled with it. It disrupts the so called “story flow” quite a lot actually. When you constantly do death fake-outs, it just makes those moments meaningless for most. All this expansion really did is emotionally manipulate people and so it’s considered amazing for that. There’s a world ending apocalypse? Don’t worry the main cast is immortal so it’s not a threat. Let’s have a lunch date while another country is being tormented by beasts. 10/10 “story flow”

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The problem for MMO is every expansion is going to be consider as an arc of apocalypse.
If you are just going to kill key characters every expansion just for "dramatic effect" then current World of Warcraft is your best example of failure.
The speed they killed off their key characters are way faster than new characters they can make us to care.
No, that is not a good way of story telling and never will.