Customizable pronouns

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Originally Posted by cinnamonoreo

In other words, you want us to be invisible so you can pretend we don't exist? Purely for your benefit?

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Call me old fashioned but I consider sexuality a part of peoples private life.
I don't care and I don't want it shoved into my face. Yes.

BTW what do you mean by this:

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Originally Posted by cinnamonoreo

I prefer people refer to me using they/them pronouns in English.

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Are you seeing yourself as a multiple personality or sth?
Last I checked (non English native here) "they" or "them" refers to multiple persons. Oo

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Originally Posted by cinnamonoreo

That's cool. That's you. I'm mostly the same but with the sole exception that I prefer people refer to me using they/them pronouns in English. Am I gonna pitch a fit if someone calls me she instead? No. Most of the time, it's a stranger and I'm not going to see them again. It just makes me a lot happier to be included. It's not bending over backwards any more than using binary pronouns already is for most people.

Being nonbinary is not a sexuality. It's a gender identity, which is separate. This "wonderful powerful organ" in my head is most pleased when people at least make the attempt to use gender neutral pronouns. I'm simply asking this game, which tickles my "wonderful power organ", make a change that would make this game better for me. We may be a small part of the world, but that doesn't make us less important or deserving to be ignored.

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Non binary is still 100% connected to sexuality though. Sexuality is not your genitals, but what's in your mind and spirit, that simple really. And you just admitted that it makes you happy to feel included, thus you do rely on your emotions still to a great extent in interacting with those in the world. But you're right, I don't want others to see me a special to make me feel happy or good, I've a close group of family, friends and the like that do that for me. I mean, I even laugh it off when my uncle still makes fun of that little girl who likes to play too wild. You can guess on what he sees as too wild, most would honestly see it that way as well if they knew lol.

But again where we differ is I don't feel the majority of the world needs to bend over to add things into a game that has a story and lore already behind it. I mean, when played D&D at a friends house two weekends ago, my "Paladin" was an outcast of the order and clergy, a woman who had sought dark magics to have a big ol wanger to bang people with. I sure as heck don't expect the rest of the world to want that =P But hey, that's D&D do whatever!

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Are you seeing yourself as a multiple personality or sth?
Last I checked (non English native here) "they" or "them" refers to multiple persons. Oo

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Pretty sure they aren't doing that, and you're just trying to find excuses to discredit them.

See what I did there?

Damn, I'm late.
Hold up while I bring the happy snacks to read 13 pages of what I know is train wreck.

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Originally Posted by Hash_Browns

Pretty sure they aren't doing that, and you're just trying to find excuses to discredit them.
See what I did there?

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Honestly?
No I don't. Might be a language barrier on that one.

In case you thought I did try to discredit anyone, I actually quoted the person I was asking, you can find the original statement here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5103212

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Honestly?
No I don't. Might be a language barrier on that one.

In case you thought I did try to discredit anyone, I actually quoted the person I was asking, you can find the original statement here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5103212

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My point was that "They" and "Them" can be used for a single person, or multiple people.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Call me old fashioned but I consider sexuality a part of peoples private life.
I don't care and I don't want it shoved into my face. Yes.

BTW what do you mean by this:

Are you seeing yourself as a multiple personality or sth?
Last I checked (non English native here) "they" or "them" refers to multiple persons. Oo

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My gender is fairly public, like anyone else's? Are woman shoving it in your face when you call them she or her? Are men? Is a male dog shoving it in your face when you go "aw, who's such a good boy"?

English has a long history of singular they, with written references dating back to the 16th century. It's actually been around longer as singular they than as plural they. So no, I'm not seeing myself as multiple personalities or whatever. I am one person using singular they/them pronouns.

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Originally Posted by Komarimono

Non binary is still 100% connected to sexuality though. Sexuality is not your genitals, but what's in your mind and spirit, that simple really. And you just admitted that it makes you happy to feel included, thus you do rely on your emotions still to a great extent in interacting with those in the world. But you're right, I don't want others to see me a special to make me feel happy or good, I've a close group of family, friends and the like that do that for me. I mean, I even laugh it off when my uncle still makes fun of that little girl who likes to play too wild. You can guess on what he sees as too wild, most would honestly see it that way as well if they knew lol.

But again where we differ is I don't feel the majority of the world needs to bend over to add things into a game that has a story and lore already behind it. I mean, when played D&D at a friends house two weekends ago, my "Paladin" was an outcast of the order and clergy, a woman who had sought dark magics to have a big ol wanger to bang people with. I sure as heck don't expect the rest of the world to want that =P But hey, that's D&D do whatever!

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Emotions are an inherent part of being human. It's actually legit considered a mental illness to not have emotions influence your decisions, daily or whatnot. If you react differently, more power to you. I've put years of thought into my gender identity. Please don't tell me that asking for the simple respectful thing of referring to me as I want to be referred to as simply an emotional reaction.

Also, sexuality is ... sexual stuff. Like being a lesbian. It's not gender.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Honestly?
No I don't. Might be a language barrier on that one.

In case you thought I did try to discredit anyone, I actually quoted the person I was asking, you can find the original statement here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post5103212

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They were trying to let you know in English the word "They" has a pre-existing history for singular use.

"What's that person over there doing?"
"Oh, they're preparing our food"

Edit: The person responded already, shoot! lol. In my defense our timestamps are of the same time XD.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

They were trying to let you know in English the word "They" has a pre-existing history for singular use.

"What's that person over there doing?"
"Oh, they're preparing our food"

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Thank you both, interesting but makes sense that I never encountered it (of if I encountered it back in school I forgot about it).

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Originally Posted by cinnamonoreo

My gender is fairly public, like anyone else's? Are woman shoving it in your face when you call them she or her? Are men? Is a male dog shoving it in your face when you go "aw, who's such a good boy"?

English has a long history of singular they, with written references dating back to the 16th century. It's actually been around longer as singular they than as plural they. So no, I'm not seeing myself as multiple personalities or whatever. I am one person using singular they/them pronouns.



Emotions are an inherent part of being human. It's actually legit considered a mental illness to not have emotions influence your decisions, daily or whatnot. If you react differently, more power to you. I've put years of thought into my gender identity. Please don't tell me that asking for the simple respectful thing of referring to me as I want to be referred to as simply an emotional reaction.

Also, sexuality is ... sexual stuff. Like being a lesbian. It's not gender.

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I never said it was a gender, but it's still 100% connected to sexuality. And you're right, emotions influence us every day, but not your decisions. It's actually a mental illness to have them affect your actions without processing it first in your mind. One of them is called being bipolar, where you are unable to regulate your emotions and control them like a healthy human can.