Fat cat mount?

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Originally Posted by DevonEllwood

"appear to have much financial since". Since what? You didn't finish the sentence. Also what is your problem? No one called anyone poor and he said 15$ is less that a meal. Are people not allowed to treat themselves once in a while? Just because someone spends 24$ on a virtual item in a game they enjoy does not mean they have bad money spending habits. If it's not worth it to you, that's fine, but that doesn't mean it's not worth it to other people.

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My problem is that we already pay a monthly fee to play this game, yet SE sees fit to nickel and dim us with new mounts/pet/ emotes in an over priced cash shop. But every time someone says something negative about the cash shop you people that act high and mighty saying that they can afford and so they don't see the problem, implying that everyone that has a problem is just too poor to buy the items. I am tired of SE's greed and I am tired of people defending them for it.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

My problem is that we already pay a monthly fee to play this game, yet SE sees fit to nickel and dim us with new mounts/pet/ emotes in an over priced cash shop. But every time someone says something negative about the cash shop you people that act high and mighty saying that they can afford and so they don't see the problem, implying that everyone that has a problem is just too poor to buy the items. I am tired of SE's greed and I am tired of people defending them for it.

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I don't care about SE being greedy as long as the money goes toward their games developpement and paying their employees. I'm willing to pay some extras for useless items that I know I will happily enjoy if it help one of my favorite game company to grow more, develop FFxiv and make new games

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Originally Posted by spf1200

My problem is that we already pay a monthly fee to play this game, yet SE sees fit to nickel and dim us with new mounts/pet/ emotes in an over priced cash shop. But every time someone says something negative about the cash shop you people that act high and mighty saying that they can afford and so they don't see the problem, implying that everyone that has a problem is just too poor to buy the items. I am tired of SE's greed and I am tired of people defending them for it.

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I bought it and I love it.

Could I have used that money in something more productive? Absolutely! But I'm a casual player... if this was added normally in the game, I bet you that it would be behind a massive grind or something luck based. (drop from EX bosses, etc...)

Sometimes I prefer to buy it outright from the store than having to spend hours in the game fighting against lady luck. Besides, this is optional content, it's not like you NEED it in order to progress in the game.

Sure, the cash shop has some overpriced items, but if something catches your eye and you deem it worth your money, why not? Even if you don't buy it to fight against the cash shop, someone else will.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

What's it like being stuck up you own ###? Just because someone is not willing to pay for something doesn't mean they are to poor to afford it. Some people can look at something and know it isn't worth the price, although if you spend more than $15 per meal you don't appear to have much finical since

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I really wish people would stop acting like folks who have hobbies and choose to spend money to support them are somehow evil. And I have plenty of financial sense - you just have no idea what my finances are like.

I agree with that, 9£ every month, so 1 year, 108£ just to be able to log in the server, + the game and the expansions, im sorry SE but if this not enough for the game development, i cant do more.
But honestly i cant blame SE for this, they drop some cute s*** and ppl just open their wallet (or mom and dad`s credit card) so as long as the money flowing in , why not.

Dont misunderstand, i dont want to insult anyone, everyone can spent their money for what they want, i just give an opinion.

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

I really wish people would stop acting like folks who have hobbies and choose to spend money to support them are somehow evil. And I have plenty of financial sense - you just have no idea what my finances are like.

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Just because you can the money doesn't mean you should. The reason the cash shop is currently rampant with over priced items is people people keep buying them. I have no problem with people spending money on a hobby until it starts to hurt the hobby as a whole. I played Warhammer 40k until a few years ago and had to stop due to prices getting higher and higher because people just kept on paying them and defending Games Workshop for the higher prices. I am seeing the same thing here. The cash shop used to just be old event items at a decent price, but it is now bloated with over priced items while in game events get the leftovers.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

Just because you can the money doesn't mean you should. The reason the cash shop is currently rampant with over priced items is people people keep buying them. I have no problem with people spending money on a hobby until it starts to hurt the hobby as a whole. I played Warhammer 40k until a few years ago and had to stop due to prices getting higher and higher because people just kept on paying them and defending Games Workshop for the higher prices. I am seeing the same thing here. The cash shop used to just be old event items at a decent price, but it is now bloated with over priced items while in game events get the leftovers.

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Maybe you should lay off telling people what they can and cant do with the money they worked for. If people have to means to afford something nice, let them buy it. Caring what other people do with their money should be non of your business

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Originally Posted by Kyomagi

Maybe you should lay off telling people what they can and cant do with the money they worked for. If people have to means to afford something nice, let them buy it. Caring what other people do with their money should be non of your business

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I'm not telling anyone what they can or can't do. I am just letting them know that they are the reason the cash shop has gotten so bad and there is a good chance that they are the reason the events have been so lack luster lately (why should SE give us stuff when they can slap a $15 price tag on and and have people praise them?)

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Originally Posted by spf1200

My problem is that we already pay a monthly fee to play this game, yet SE sees fit to nickel and dim us with new mounts/pet/ emotes in an over priced cash shop.

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I see people say that a subscription game should not have a cash shop, that cash shops are only excusable when the game is free to play (and sometimes not even then). What people seem to have overlooked is that, when SE announces a new expansion and/or a new patch, they tell you the features that they are bringing in that new expansion/patch. Those features (and continued access to them) are the only thing you are paying them for with your subscription, everything else is extra stuff. If they give us extra stuff for free in game, then that's great, but that doesn't mean they're wrong if they want to charge for those extra stuff instead. We, as individual consumers, have to decide for ourselves whether the mog station has anything worthwhile to spend beyond the subscription cost.

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Originally Posted by spf1200

Just because you can the money doesn't mean you should. The reason the cash shop is currently rampant with over priced items is people people keep buying them. I have no problem with people spending money on a hobby until it starts to hurt the hobby as a whole. I played Warhammer 40k until a few years ago and had to stop due to prices getting higher and higher because people just kept on paying them and defending Games Workshop for the higher prices. I am seeing the same thing here. The cash shop used to just be old event items at a decent price, but it is now bloated with over priced items while in game events get the leftovers.

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You're right in how people's willingness to make a purchase allows SE to have a market to sell more items in the mog station. That is the reality that is taking place and it is not the responsibility of those people to keep the market price as low as you want them. If what SE sells is appealing enough for its price, then enough people will buy it. That's just the market at work.

That said, again keep in mind that these are all extra stuff (be they in game for free or in the mog station) that has nothing to do with what SE tells you are in the expansion/patch that you are paying a monthly subscription for. Thus, if you think the mog station prices are too expensive, then just be content with what you have in game because that is what your subscription pays for you, nothing more. And if you think you are not getting enough in the game for your subscription without including all those items in the mog station, then that's a decision you have to make for yourself.

For my part, I think the game gives me plenty for my subscription. That said, I do buy from the mog station, and the only reason why I don't buy more from the mog station is because I only stick mostly to account-wide items as I delete plenty of characters, just about almost as many as I create. I've even deleted a character that I spent getting all combat jobs and gathering classes to 70 and crafting classes to 68-70 and did plenty of mount farms. So I learned my lesson not to spend more real money when I can lose the items literally on a whim if I decide to delete a character.

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Originally Posted by linay

That said, again keep in mind that these are all extra stuff (be they in game for free or in the mog station) that has nothing to do with what SE tells you are in the expansion/patch that you are paying a monthly subscription for. Thus, if you think the mog station prices are too expensive, then just be content with what you have in game because that is what your subscription pays for you, nothing more. And if you think you are not getting enough in the game for your subscription without including all those items in the mog station, then that's a decision you have to make for yourself.

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Literally this. I decide the value of their goods versus my money, and my opinion is that their sub (and all it does/doesn't entail) is worth my $15, and their extras are worth additional money. Someone else who doesn't agree is perfectly in their rights to feel that way. But don't guilt other people for buying what they want - they're not guilting you for not buying it in return.

If people stopped buying from the Mog station, those items wouldn't get made. They wouldn't suddenly be given to the players, like an apology for a failed venture. The folks who make them would just be laid off and the store closed. My opinion is that I like these things, I want to see these people keep producing this stuff. So I spend my money accordingly.

If you don't agree that XIV gives you enough value for your subscription, unsubscribe. Feel free to make your opinions known all you want, by all means - but don't insult/guilt/villainize people who don't agree with you. They're free to make their own decisions on the subject.