SCH opinons on the change

I swapped over to astro, until they make several more needed adjustments my ole scholar will be riding the bench. It saddens me considering I had been a scholar main since 2.0 beta

Does it not bother anyone else that the imposed class limitation, and to a much lesser extent, cards not stacking (which can still be circumvented by communication) may very well be the only reasons any other healer besides AST is relevant up to now?

Ask around, and I'd bet to many raiders, It's not what WHM or SCH bring to the group that gets them a spot, but instead the limitations imposed on AST from the cards not stacking, to the outright prohibition of duplicate jobs in deltascape savage.

It's almost like... a hiring quota...

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Originally Posted by Reilyn

Does it not bother anyone else that the imposed class limitation, and to a much lesser extent, cards not stacking (which can still be circumvented by communication) may very well be the only reasons any other healer besides AST is relevant up to now?

Ask around, and I'd bet to many raiders, It's not what WHM or SCH bring to the group that gets them a spot, but instead the limitations imposed on AST from the cards not stacking, to the outright prohibition of duplicate jobs in deltascape savage.

It's almost like... a hiring quota...

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Affirmative Alleviation, helping scholars and white mages see savage since 4.0

On a more serious note, I like a lot of the changes and am looking forward to testing them out tonight. I still have issues.

1. Aldo mp cost is insane for what it is. Please look at either Aldo gets better or cost goes down.

2. Please fix dissipate. We know you can have the fairy come back, summoners got that.

Hey there! I'm sorry, I know I should appreciate this, but how is AF on a 45 min cool down now? I just saw quickened reduces by 5 seconds...

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Originally Posted by Lindreus

Hey there! I'm sorry, I know I should appreciate this, but how is AF on a 45 min cool down now? I just saw quickened reduces by 5 seconds...

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Each use of a aether flow stack reduces by 5 sec. We get three meaning if you don't hold on too them for too long you can effectively make the CD from 60 sec to 45 sec for the whole fight.

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Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

Each use of a aether flow stack reduces by 5 sec. We get three meaning if you don't hold on too them for too long you can effectively make the CD from 60 sec to 45 sec for the whole fight.

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And even to 30s with Dissipation, but, lol Dissipation.

love the changes. they make sch very powerful and funl in dungeons. I have more aether stacks and fairy gaugestacks now that I can spend. miasma 2 is a lot of dps and not affected by diminishing returns. fairy tether range is huge. like the entire diameter of sacred soil. excog is a powerful 800 potency heal buff. I love all the changes. if you are co .mplaining about mana problems now you're doing something wrong

also when I resummoned my fairy I still had my original fairy gauge stacks ! but im not sure if I used dissipation prior or jist forgot to place the fairy on heel

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Originally Posted by Alisi

Succor, even buffed with the healing up spell (the role spell) plus ET, still doesn't keep up. It's very slow and the healing is tiny. Indo is nice-ish but the CD is very long when we're talking about high party wide damage coming very fast (roar did enough damage to take out 50% ~ 70%-ish of the party HP per roar -- every second or two and right after he drops your HP to 1.) Can't keep up with that. And then you go OOM very, very quickly.

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It sounds like you were basically solo healing for some reason, but you can handle the 1 HP ability + Roars in much the same way you could handle Photons in A11S, and this was a phase I used to solo heal to let my co-healer DPS since Malefic II was more potency than Broil back then.

Pre-shield with Deployment Tactics before everyone's HP is reduced to critical (the barrier won't be consumed by this because it's pre-determined damage, so everyone will have the barrier for Roar and give you enough time to heal). Then, precast ET+Succor and use Indomitability immediately after. While you're doing all of this, you should also command Eos to either do Fey Illumination to buff your initial shield and following Succor, or use Fey Covenant to mitigate the damage from the immediate Roar. You won't have eveyrone topped off, no, but the mitigation should be enough to keep people alive through both attacks. Whispering Dawn would also help here, but you gotta decide a priority order for the pet's abilities in this specific scenario, since you can't use all three in the few seconds you have before Roar. I'd personally save WD for helping top people off after Roar and use Covenant for the mitigation.

You can also throw in a Sacred Soil for Roar if you feel it's not mitigated enough. It of course becomes "easier" with more communication, since you can have a Bard use Nature's Minne on the deployment target, coupled with their own MDEF+ buff, or a caster use Addle on the Roar as well.

Also, if there were a lot of deaths, it's not surprising you were OoM really fast.