how long do you think 14 will last?

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Originally Posted by Assirra

yea 3 completely new jobs is nothing new...
Flying mounts are also nothing new which means they can do some crazy stuff with the zones.

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Flying is just another way of transport, no flying content, nothing special about it. No mobs in sky, no fly races.. nothing.
Mechanist is just reskinned BRD.
Astrologian and DRK look nice, I admit that, but this is not a MOBA game, I don't fancy runing obsolete content 30 times a week only because I run it with 20 different jobs.

I would rather see them come with new mechanics and improve the old ones.
Why cannot we have better PVP leaderboards, materias and morale in frontlines?
Dungeons with more paths, open world dungeons, stuff like Hamlet from 1.0?

All I see in Heavensward is weekly roulettes, weekly alex, weekly hunt.
The only thing that is somehow updated is crafting and gathering and from what I see on forums most people hate it..

WoW has been going for like 11 years now with very little innovation. I don't see the concern. The amount of content in heavensward is ridiculous, it's like twice that of the most recent WoW expansion (Which only lasted 9 months, pathetically enough). And it's only gonna get better from here.

I don't get some of you, it's like you're expecting an expansion to turn this into an entirely new game. Of course it's gonna be more of the same, just with new content to go through.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

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But WoW also introduce new mechanics with it's expansions. Also expecting a few new mechanics is not the same as expecting different game.
We have given SE a lot of feedback on new stuff that we would like to see.

If you want to ask me for some new mechanics WoW introduced.. saying the housing is enough. That content is huge and well-thought. Atleast in my opinion.

The reason why I am so negative about FFXIV is simple. I love the game and I want it to get better constantly. If I didn't care for FFXIV I would be playing now instead of posting on forums.

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Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

But WoW also introduce new mechanics with it's expansions. Also expecting a few new mechanics is not the same as expecting different game.
We have given SE a lot of feedback on new stuff that we would like to see.

If you want to ask me for some new mechanics WoW introduced.. saying the housing is enough. That content is huge and well-thought. Atleast in my opinion.

The reason why I am so negative about FFXIV is simple. I love the game and I want it to get better constantly. If I didn't care for FFXIV I would be playing now instead of posting on forums.

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Wait a second. Housing in wow? You actually consider Garrison good and well-thought?
sorry but

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Garisson is the absolute blight on the current expansion, universally agreed. I take a game that does more of the same over that kind of new.
Wow has introduced very little mechanics each expansion actually. The only things i can think off new in tbc since new dungeons/raids/zones/levels are not allowed is the socketing system, the arena system and dailies. Those are all in this game already.

OK, so, forgetting about WOW, how many years until Square drops FFXIV support for its next Online FF? How many years FFXI had? Is it even playable anymore? Sorry, noob questions, I'm starting with online Final Fantasies.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

OK, so, forgetting about WOW, how many years until Square drops FFXIV support for its next Online FF? How many years FFXI had? Is it even playable anymore? Sorry, noob questions, I'm starting with online Final Fantasies.

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Almost 12 years. My friend played it recently and they introduced lots of ways to play alone, because not many people play it anymore.
Also Yoshida recently said that they are not planing any subscription change, but that they are willing to change model if their playerbase wants it (FFXIV).

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

OK, so, forgetting about WOW, how many years until Square drops FFXIV support for its next Online FF? How many years FFXI had? Is it even playable anymore? Sorry, noob questions, I'm starting with online Final Fantasies.

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FFXI is still ongoing, FFXIV was just saved from that crappy launch it had a few years ago, so this is to soon to worry about if at all.

thank you all for the replies and judging by the poll most everyone feels like I do that 14 has a possible 10+ years left, personally I'd like to see it live longer than 12 more years, but that's just me.

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Originally Posted by Assirra

I would agree with this, had it not been Final Fantasy.
The name alone will carry it a lot further then your typical themepark mmo.

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Tell that to SWTOR, the Star Wars franchise didn't save it from a massive decline in the player base prior to going free to play. Same with Elder scrolls Online, DC universe. IP is just the hook.

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Originally Posted by Assirra

Wait a second. Housing in wow? You actually consider Garrison good and well-thought?
sorry but

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Garisson is the absolute blight on the current expansion, universally agreed. I

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Universally agreed upon by you, yourself, and you?


Just because it's the hype to bash something doesn't mean it is a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Assirra

Wow has introduced very little mechanics each expansion actually. The only things i can think off new in tbc since new dungeons/raids/zones/levels are not allowed is the socketing system, the arena system and dailies. Those are all in this game already.

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They changed core game mechanics with most of their expansions, and changed classes in every single expansion.


Honestly, please stop comparing FFXIV to WoW. I do not want to play WoW.
I want to play this game.

But the fact remains that a number of things we have (or don't have here) are simply done much better in WoW...expansions included. So bringing up WoW won't make the argument go in your favor, rather the opposite.