Should Cleric Stance be disabled during Dungeons and Raids?

I main SCH and find SMN to be too boring to play because there is no stance dancing involved.

...and I'm a terribad SMN anyways so not a great loss I guess

13 pages and op got just one like.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

True, but if we didn't have cleric stance it wouldn't be as expected of us to DPS because our performance wouldn't be as good. The reason I made this thread is because there are many instances where healers have a lot on there plate with the healing and it feels unfair to have to do the job of the other jobs.

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No one expects you to dps in healing intense situations. But, let me ask you a question, what do you do if there's nothing to heal? As a healer you will alway have downtime, and even if it's only 3 seconds, that's already enough to weave in a dps cast. As a dps or tank you have a rotation, you're expected to push a button at any given time, queuing one skill/cast after another. There's no reason for you as a healer to go brain afk or alt-tab out to youtube when the next heal is a few full seconds away. ^^

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Why should healers dps if the dps don't heal, nor tank and the same applies to tanks they don't heal they just dps because its required to do their job.

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The ultimate goal of your 'group' is to kill the boss, no matter your role.

Your job - aswell as everyone else's job - is to contribute everything possible and utilize every tool you are given to reach that goal. Like I already said, there's absolutely no reason for you to not press buttons during healing-downtime when everyone else is pressing a button at any given time. If you think otherwise, then you're lazy and would probably be replaced pretty quickly in alot of statics.

No.

Just because you can't, or don't want to do something doesn't mean the game should be nerfed to make you feel better. Like everything in life, there will always be people more talented than you are who do a better job than you do. No one should be penalized for excelling, and frankly I think it was a mistake to disable it in PVP.

No, thats what separates the amazing healers from the good ones.

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

The title says it all do you guys think that Cleric Stance should be disabled during dungeons and raids similar to frontlines.

Recently it has become almost mandatory for healers to DPS, and while it certainly does have it niches it shouldn't be a requirement nor feasible in raids and dungeons unless the healer was made with damage dealing healing capabilities (Ex. Discipline Priest Wow / Dancer FFXI)

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So you want to disable cleric stance? then what's left? pressing a hotkey every 10 seconds to drop a cure on someone? sounds boring to me... Healing in most duties is extremly easy that if you only do that you'd end up standing and doing nothing 80% of the run... Don't know about you but I like to actually play the game insteada of standing around watching others play lol

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

The title says it all do you guys think that Cleric Stance should be disabled during dungeons and raids similar to frontlines.

Recently it has become almost mandatory for healers to DPS, and while it certainly does have it niches it shouldn't be a requirement nor feasible in raids and dungeons unless the healer was made with damage dealing healing capabilities (Ex. Discipline Priest Wow / Dancer FFXI)

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If you, personally, don't want to go out of your way to throw in some additional damage (which can help make a run go faster and smoother at times) then don't. The most important thing you are there to do is stop the tank from dying whilst the actual DPS jobs kill the enemies, and if a pull is large enough you might not get much time to actually contribute that effectively with damage anyway.

That said, a couple of stuns from Holy can be used as a decent form of damage mitigation.

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Originally Posted by Sumimi

DPSing as a healer is not a "requirement" for anything.

Healers who DPS fall into two categories:
1) They're really just SMNs or BLMs in disguise, and never really wanted to heal in the first place.
2) They're real healers who want to make the best of the time they have, and sneak in a few spells so runs are faster and/or dps checks are met.

Would you believe me if I said Holy is a good healing spell? I personally think it is.

So...no. Cleric Stance should not be disabled. I reckon a large number of healers will stop playing their respective healing class if that happens.

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this pretty much sums it up

Don't see why it should be disabled. It's helpful in most content for the healer to stance dance and get some DPS in during any down time they have. As long as their managing their MP well and keep healing, it causes zero problems.

Disable Cleric Stance there and you might as well remove it from the game altogether, really.