Best Gear in Coil needs to end

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Originally Posted by Ayiana_Arch

Just my two cents on this: You do not need BiS gear for anything other than Coil.

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Technically you don't need i110 for coil either. i110 drops as a reward /from/ coil so it can be cleared with significantly less.

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Originally Posted by Nel_Celestine

Technically you don't need i110 for coil either. i110 drops as a reward /from/ coil so it can be cleared with significantly less.

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Like I said, BG was able to clear it with i90 gear. But it makes sense that Coil drops the best gear, which is as it should be. The Weathered gear does not need to be un-weathered if you aren't doing Coil is all I'm saying :P

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Originally Posted by FraenirVolsung

This is absolutely 110% true. My only issue with the way things have been designed is that you create two unique sets of i110 gear but you gate them both behind 1 individual piece of content. Put the i110 high allagan gear in coil, but give us something else that is equally as challenging for unidentified allagan, sands, and oils.

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This is the issue: there are two different gear sets for same item level but they're both gated behind one content. What is the point in this?

I don't think anyone is asking same level of gear to be obtained in an easier manner, but they're asking for alternative difficult content for same item level. The issue is Coil 2 is the only content worth doing right now. And maybe Leviathan ex and upgrading an animus or a few.

I honestly don't see any issue with having the best weapons in the game drop from the toughest content in the game.

Here's a thing for oh-so-bored contentburners out there:
OFFER TO DO TRAINING RUNS (no, not for gil)
...problem solved, end of story.

No, seriously, I'm sick and tired of every single PF looking for "i9k+ and kill exp only otherwise we hunt down your family and burn down your house", but nobody ever offering to teach anything, anywhere. And then of course those same people getting mad as hell if they can't get a party together for whatever they wanna do and ragequit if they try DF and find one or two newbies in there. Like, what do you expect?? Nobody's forcing you to complete everything in shorter-than-should-be-possible time - if that's what's fun for you, sure, go ahead. But please don't expect everybody else to be like that as well, and don't expect SE to cater to those specific needs of yours either.

BreathlessTao.. you're using logic. The very thing that trolls despise.

Honestly though that's how I see people like that, trolls.

Of course people should run and are rerunning older content with and for others in learning purposes. I know I am running Coil 1 and extreme learning runs regularly. That doesn't change the issue that only worthwile progression content is Coil 2. There's a lot of stuff to do in the game: I could do animus for all my jobs, run dailies to max my fame for all beastmen tribes, get max rank in PvP etc. etc. The issue is, that content isn't interesting to me. And I'm not alone in this. I have many FC members who are very much into progression but are losing interest because in addition to Coil 2 all the game is offering them is "forced" (yeah yeah blah blah you don't have you do it if you don't want to blah blah) soldiery farming and animus upgrade.

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Originally Posted by Taika

I could do animus for all my jobs

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Originally Posted by BreathlessTao

Here's a thing for oh-so-bored contentburners out there:
OFFER TO DO TRAINING RUNS (no, not for gil)
...problem solved, end of story.

No, seriously, I'm sick and tired of every single PF looking for "i9k+ and kill exp only otherwise we hunt down your family and burn down your house", but nobody ever offering to teach anything, anywhere. And then of course those same people getting mad as hell if they can't get a party together for whatever they wanna do and ragequit if they try DF and find one or two newbies in there. Like, what do you expect?? Nobody's forcing you to complete everything in shorter-than-should-be-possible time - if that's what's fun for you, sure, go ahead. But please don't expect everybody else to be like that as well, and don't expect SE to cater to those specific needs of yours either.

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So they should be relegated to teaching most of the playerbase? When they've likely taught many people already? There comes a point when you just get tired of teaching people CONSTANTLY, and just want a win. This isn't unreasonable in the slightest.

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Originally Posted by ispano

So they should be relegated to teaching most of the playerbase? When they've likely taught many people already? There comes a point when you just get tired of teaching people CONSTANTLY, and just want a win. This isn't unreasonable in the slightest.

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No, we are doomed to wipe for eternity, lest we be bad people.