Harsher Penalties for Tanks who Immediately Leave Duty Finder

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Originally Posted by itschowda

It sounds like what the OP really wants is the leaver status on most MOBAs. I first saw it on HoN (Heroes of Newerth). I think it could be a good addition to the duty finder system. Something along the line: every time you withdraw from a duty within the first few minutes, it calculates versus how many you've completed. At a certain %, let's say 5% or higher, you cannot queue in until your % becomes lower. It might also make party finder more viable as people with a high leave rate have to go into duties with a preformed group until their leave % is lowered.

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I Really really like this idea! I understand the concerns of the OP. I was victim to this 3 times yesterday. One run the Tank did not want to run Halatali and admittedly said wrong dungeon and left, leaving me the healer and the two DPS' for 10+ minutes in addition to the 30 minutes it took to queue for said dungeon. the other two tanks were pretty much trolls and also admitted it before leaving on two other dungeons...

Before someone tells me to go level a tank then, I have you know I have a 50 war and a 32 PLD...

Make the penalties so harsh, that those tanks that say "No problem here, play tank for insta-queue!" (which is false, at times I can wait quite a while as a tank, and this only started since HUNTS, yeah I blame them) will have tears at the penalties enforced. Then all the DPS can say "No problem here, play a DPS!"

Harsh penalty for all who left the Duns at the start or mid-way through. Problem solved..

Well leaving at the start probably shouldn't have a penalty since it's only about 1% of anyone who leaves at the start for douchey reasons like a Tank decides the dungeon or the people not being over geared for it doesn't suit them and they are like "His majesty is not happy to Tank this tally bye!" *vanishes* most people leave at the start because somebody in the party has odd gear so obviously has no idea what they are doing or are a known troll who will just try to cause wipes. People who enter for XP or certain loot leaving after it's done should be punished more heavily because these people are the main issue. If you enter a duty you should see it through not just until you get what you want and then selfishly leave. I'd be happier if new DF punishments came down harder on these people. You could say well people might leave because somebody is bad but these people can be removed or the duty abandoned anyway.

So you have to wait a little bit longer /wrist

Make a tank and you should be fine. If they leave, they leave. They get a 30 minute penalty for leaving anyways.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

So you have to wait a little bit longer /wrist

Make a tank and you should be fine. If they leave, they leave. They get a 30 minute penalty for leaving anyways.

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Saying to make a tank is just bad. How does that help them enjoying whatever other role they want to enjoy in such content? Yes, the tank can leave, and get their penalty, but then a lot of times the group can be stuck waiting for tank, or the healer now gets inpatient, because they think/know they can get a faster queue by queuing again, so they leave, now 2 DPS are down a healer and tank. And most of the time, even when the healer stays, they have to abandon anyway because they are waiting so long for a tank. Which puts them at the end of the line again of an already long queue. So the tank that leaves upon entering a dungeon is doing more harm than withdrawing before people enter.

I have also encountered quite a few instant-leave tanks, and completely support a harsher leaver penalty if the leaving takes place within, say, the first 10 minutes of a duty.

Why stop at tanks? Just punish everyone equally if they ditch the party.

Wouldn't allowing for a player to change class in the dungeon only after someone leaves help the situation? Sorry if this has been answered before first time posting here.

Tanks are people too.

If they decide to abandon, that's on them...they do in fact, still get the exact same penality for leaving everyone else is subjected to. They are not some sort of 'special snowflake' that exists above the law.
Also, if you don't like the fact, that they have faster queue times than you, roll tank. They only have faster queues because you outnumber them as DPS. Again, it's not some weird quirk where SE is 'favoring' them, but is directly linked to how many of them there are vs your chosen profession.

Also, this only applies to people if they actually queue on tank (their faster queue). Don't you think some of those 'tank mains' might, just might wanna level ROG/NIN too? So they will be eating long queues with you. Maybe if you get bored, you could level your tank along with the NIN rush to get your own 'special snowflake' status you seem to think tanks have.

-From a dedicated healer