[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

Sena Bryer is a woman. Her pronouns are she/ella. (English/Spanish.)

People who think her voice is too low or has undertones that are absent from women's voices should listen to more women speak in a variety of environments. She is hardly in the lowest range, even if you were to only compare her to cis-women.

Someone can be Latina AND have fair skin. She's Puerto Rican.

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Originally Posted by NonBinaryNyan

People who think her voice is too low or has undertones that are absent from women's voices should listen to more women speak in a variety of environments. She is hardly in the lowest range, even if you were to only compare her to cis-women.

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This is a fanbase that thinks Alisaie's voice is too low. Anything but the absolute squeakiest of moeblob anime voices sounds like a "man" to these people.

I can think of something lower

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Originally Posted by NonBinaryNyan

Sena Bryer is a woman. Her pronouns are she/ella. (English/Spanish.)

People who think her voice is too low or has undertones that are absent from women's voices should listen to more women speak in a variety of environments. She is hardly in the lowest range, even if you were to only compare her to cis-women.

Someone can be Latina AND have fair skin. She's Puerto Rican.

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Things no one is complaining about.

Good troll tho, alt account.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

So, seeing that you did this, I went to verify.

I counted negative posts towards the voice first, up til page 12. Negative opinions given likes totaled 501.

I went back and counted positive posts towards the voice up to page 12. Positive opinions given likes totaled 342.

I only ignored posts, either negative or positive, if they didn't mentioned the voice acting of Wuk Lamat in EN at all. This left out only posts talking about other things like politics, other voices in other languages, or other characters' voice acting.

You must have an awful lot of people blocked or something. Or perhaps you made some addition errors.

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Ergo.. English speaking people is judgemental, or is it one group of English people that is against it or do not even got an ear for their own language? as it improves as it heads on....

Questions questions?!? as well as pointless nonsense.

Wuk Lamat is first of all a foreign Cat... and she is adapting to Eorzean or trying to, unlike everyone else she is not a Scholar or Ishgaardian, but more a wild tribe cat.. she is great.

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Originally Posted by NonBinaryNyan

People who think her voice is too low or has undertones that are absent from women's voices should listen to more women speak in a variety of environments. She is hardly in the lowest range, even if you were to only compare her to cis-women.

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Yummy yummy bait in my tummy.

She does have a pronounced male undertone, nobody said anything about women being incapable of doing lower tones. Women can do a wide range of tones but doing a tone is different from an undertone, which is developmental in this case.

Its certainly not a ''anything but the absolute squeakiest of moeblob anime voices'' issue like one bad faith(+4) moron would like to believe.

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

Things no one is complaining about.

Good troll tho, alt account.

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A couple of posters actually were complaining that her voice was too low to be believable in one of the threads that got gutted by the mods when the patch came out because some of the comments were blatantly discriminatory.

Personally the idea the voice wasn't believable confused me. The character never sounded like anything other to a woman to me.

This continues to be much ado about nothing on all sides if I'm to be honest. It's a new character with a voice actor new to us. It's going to be a bit rough at first. Let it rest then return to the subject after we've had a chance to play through 7.0 if needed.

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

Things no one is complaining about.

Good troll tho, alt account.

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A combination of errors, mistakes, and what seemed to possibly be some intentional statements were made contrary to *all* of those points, not just on the forums but in this very thread already. I was asserting the correct information in one spot, instead of trying to guess at people's intentions when they *might* have simply been unaware.

I have no idea why you're accusing me of trolling or being an alt account.

The German on matches the face and teeth of this character emotion. I like that one the best.

Holy HELL, who cares? She had a stupid take on Bridget's VA? AMAZING. One time the VA for Pyra/Mythra from Xenoblade said that the main character didn't "have enough rizz to pull down" the three characters he canonically married, loved, and had children with. She also caught hell online from whining fans online about something totally inconsequential. The VA behind Dante from DMC is crazily anti-vax and a little derpy and probably believes in the healing power of crystals he finds on the side of the road.

. . . and who CARES!? You're wasting so much of your life on this junk and noise. This is less substantial than the Subs/Dubs argument, and anyone who is willing to die on any hill in that argument is certifiably as emotionally developed as a termite mound. Just pick what you prefer, and go with that.

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Originally Posted by LalafellDown

The German on matches the face and teeth of this character emotion. I like that one the best.

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I don't speak German but I can if you like. ヽ(○´∀`)ﾉ♪

I finally got to meet her and listen to the voice acting yesterday evening. She's good, sounds South American.

I'm surprised people are criticising the voice acting and nobody is mentioning they didn't bother to give her ears with the headscarf, or why Erenville is suddenly from Tural but still has a Scandinavian accent like other Viera and Hrothgar from Eorzea/Dalmasca.

Or how besides Nidhana and Varshahn, most NPCs in Radz didn't sound Indian.

There's a large outcry. Normies just don't use the forums, duh.

Honestly I had no idea about VA being a guy's voice. I just felt the pronunciation and accent quality jumping up and down over the cutscenes.

The only people that made it political are those jumping to defend the person, calling other "phobes" and whatnot. Without that, I would not give a thought to go finding out about genders or anything unrelated to the game's audio.

Baby I will call you anything you want me to, but please do the VA better.

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Originally Posted by Karious

There's a large outcry. Normies just don't use the forums, duh.

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That means you're not a normie and therefore can't speak for them. ( ˘ ³˘)♥

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Originally Posted by Karious

There's a large outcry. Normies just don't use the forums, duh.

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Where though?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

If you got banned it wasn't for disliking the voice itself. It was for what you have continued to do, even now lol. Blatantly refusing to refer to sena as she.


Also, there's no large outcry about her performance, and as many have noted but been ignored because it doesn't go against this new VA, most of the voice acting in this patch was off. Even from our seasoned veterans.


And her being trans isn't political. You might make it political by trying to legislate against it, but it is not inherently political.

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What sad is with the logic some people use, how exactly is a trans person supposed to be a video game character or be in a video game as a voice actor without it being political? It's impossible. A black main character? Political. Woke. A trans voice actor? Political. Woke. Gay? Definitely political and woke. You can't win.

What they really mean when they say "don't make this political" is "I don't want to hear about/see types of people I don't like."

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Where though?

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Honestly, I can't tell if they're serious about this "silent majority" dribble or if they're parodying it for cheap-edgelord-lulz. (●・ε・●)

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

What sad is with the logic some people use, how exactly is a trans person supposed to be a video game character or be in a video game as a voice actor without it being political? It's impossible. A black main character? Political. Woke. A trans voice actor? Political. Woke. Gay? Definitely political and woke. You can't win.

What they really mean when they say "don't make this political" is "I don't want to hear about/see types of people I don't like."

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Don't even try to pretend that it wasn't her supporters that made it political. Hardly anyone knew of her status until that crowd kept using her status to dismiss all discussions criticizing the voice work.

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

Don't even try to pretend that it wasn't her supporters that made it political. Hardly anyone knew of her status until that crowd kept using her status to dismiss all discussions criticizing the voice work.

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The very first post that mentioned her the forums literally started by complaining about her and being trans. It was removed. It wasn't the supporters who started it, it was the detractors.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The very first post that mentioned her the forums literally started by complaining about her and being trans. It was removed. It wasn't the supporters who started it, it was the detractors.

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I was there for page 1 and that's an outright lie, that very same post it was the supporters that first brought it up and kept bringing it up in an attempt to derail every thread about it by making it political. There is bad faith on both sides but you can see the same dumb tactics here, valid criticism being met with accusations.

The initial threads about Wuk Lamat were openly transphobic and cried about her tweets from moment 0.0000000s.

I had no idea who Sena even was. Thanks forums!!

Using a deleted thread we can't read as evidence? I expected better. Smh.

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Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe

The initial threads about Wuk Lamat were openly transphobic and cried about her tweets from moment 0.0000000s.

I had no idea who Sena even was. Thanks forums!!

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Another bold faced lie, which isn't a surprise given how tribal you've shown to be about the topic.

I don't care who they cast for any particular role. The Voice acting overall in this patch was bad. Has Square resorted to recording the lines for English VA's in their office Bathrooms?

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

I was there for page 1 and that's an outright lie, that very same post it was the supporters that first brought it up and kept bringing it up in an attempt to derail every thread about it by making it political. There is bad faith on both sides but you can see the same dumb tactics here, valid criticism being met with accusations.

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You're wrong. The very first post was some transphobe intentionally misgendering her. Stop gaslighting to protect transphobes.

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

Another bold faced lie, which isn't a surprise given how tribal you've shown to be about the topic.

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I see the gaslighting to try and defend transphobes will continue. That's unfortunate.

But please, continue making a fool of yourself.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

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Just proves my point, you're another detractor trying to derail a valid thread with insults and boohoos, exactly what you did with previous threads until they get nuked.

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

Just proves my point, you're another detractor trying to derail a valid thread with insults and boohoos, exactly what you did with previous threads until they get nuked.

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So calling out transphobic posts is bad? But given you're trying to gaslight I shouldn't be surprised you want to pretend it didn't happen.

I wonder why you're so eager to defend transphobes and dismiss their bigotry.

It's a REAL mystery.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

So calling out transphobic posts is bad? But given you're trying to gaslight I shouldn't be surprised you want to pretend it didn't happen.

I wonder why you're so eager to defend transphobes and dismiss their bigotry.

It's a REAL mystery.

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So disagreeing that the original thread criticizing the voice work is defending someone? Who exactly?

This is the same nonsense that was pulled in every thread so far, insults and accusations in response to valid criticism. You haven't brought anything worth while to the discussion and your goal here isn't a mystery at all.

It's clear you're not even mature enough to discuss the topic when you're this emotionally charged. I'd recommend hitting that fun little button at the top right that says "Log Out" and come back when you're not just going to mud sling in hopes of getting a thread deleted.

I never saw the thread that got deleted, so I can only go by what others have said happened in it (nothing good, it seems). However, since that thread never returned and this one did (after a fair amount of posts were rightfully deleted), I think maybe it stayed deleted because maybe the OP of that thread wrote something that would get a post removed/deleted. Unsure if threads can exist without the OP's opening post... that's just my guess, though.

Anyway, did the second part of the 6.55 MSQ yesterday and I gotta say; Wuk Lamat's voice during the lunch/dinner scene was pretty good. She did sound a little rough in the first quest and a little awkward during the combat, but I think she genuinely did a good job voicing Wuk Lamat during the lunch/dinner scene.

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Originally Posted by Troxbark

So disagreeing that the original thread criticizing the voice work is defending someone? Who exactly?

This is the same nonsense that was pulled in every thread so far, insults and accusations in response to valid criticism. You haven't brought anything worth while to the discussion and your goal here isn't a mystery at all.

It's clear you're not even mature enough to discuss the topic when you're this emotionally charged. I'd recommend hitting that fun little button at the top right that says "Log Out" and come back when you're not just going to mud sling in hopes of getting a thread deleted.

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Oh no. Disagreements are fine.

But there is no disagreement here. You're blatantly lying about the deleted thread in an effort to defend the transphobe who made it, and it's clear you're going to continue to lie about it to defend transphobes.

See, no disagreement, just you being factually called out as a liar.

So I'm just going to ignore you, but I'm sure others will call you out on your BS.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

Oh no. Disagreements are fine.

But there is no disagreement here. You're blatantly lying about the deleted thread in an effort to defend the transphobe who made it, and it's clear you're going to continue to lie about it to defend transphobes.

See, no disagreement, just you being factually called out as a liar.

So I'm just going to ignore you, but I'm sure others will call you out on your BS.

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You likely found a single troll thread and decided to hyper focus on it to avoid talking about the first actual post criticizing the quality of voice work that went off the rails because of disingenuous posters like yourself. I don't find it surprising that the same people trying to derail this thread by throwing out accusations and insults, are the same people crying about this deleted thread that somehow supports all their arguments. lol

I think her voice is alright.

Hearing it in the same scene as Alphinaud's poshy British accent is funny.

I'm just looking at these tags lol. "titanpeaks"

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Lol, people hella mad that this thread is still up so they start making stuff up...

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Originally Posted by Karious

Lol, people hella mad that this thread is still up so they start making stuff up...

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

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Lmao not you. I got rid of all the transphobic and problematic tags.

A quick aside: how many people on this forum use Japanese voices? I honestly thought it was the default choice (given the usual number of defenders of the original voice actors, who are reputed to be better than the dubbers hired for other languages).

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Originally Posted by DrForester

So calling out transphobic posts is bad? But given you're trying to gaslight I shouldn't be surprised you want to pretend it didn't happen.

I wonder why you're so eager to defend transphobes and dismiss their bigotry.

It's a REAL mystery.

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Christ almighty with a spoon mate, go do something better with your time than trying to act like a Hero.

Nothing is more offensive and dehumanizing as people who think they have the right to control way people should speak and say their opinions.

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Originally Posted by Undeadfire

Christ almighty with a spoon mate, go do something better with your time than trying to act like a Hero.

Nothing is more offensive and dehumanizing as people who think they have the right to control way people should speak and say their opinions.

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Once again, not a disagreement about opinions. It's flatly calling out someone on a lie. They're trying to gaslight people into thinking transphobia was not right there in the first post complaining about the voice actress.

I'm sorry calling out bullshit offends you so much.