No real endgame raiding content in 2.1

I find this thread hilarious when no one has even beat Turn 5 yet.

I'm fairly confident someone will beat it next week, if not by then, definitely the week after. We're not having difficulty issues, we're having gear (VIT) issues. There are people who have been doing it a week longer than I have and I know we're close, I'd expect others are even closer.

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Originally Posted by Quatre

I find this thread hilarious when no one has even beat Turn 5 yet.

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They will when they get the gear to beat the huge gear check that is coil. May even beat it before.

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Originally Posted by Churchill

I'm fairly confident someone will beat it next week, if not by then, definitely the week after. We're not having difficulty issues, we're having gear (VIT) issues. There are people who have been doing it a week longer than I have and I know we're close, I'd expect others are even closer.

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1 party out of how many playing FFXIV ARR?

Sure 1 party will beat it, I'm not doubting that. the point of this thread is or isn't enough end-game. 2.1 and Crystal Tower for "Most" people, will be playing that for gear.

Regardless of if people beat it or not, you're still farming 6 items a week from the more easily beaten Turns (1-4). At that rate, with the RNG of the drops included, you get more bang for your buck from Mythology at 300 a week. It's pretty sad that my best way of obtaining gear is through tokens I can get from a dungeon I can beat in AF instead of the dungeon that less than 100 people will clear by 2.1.

By and large the main reason that people will have difficulty clearing Coil is not because it is too hard but because it takes awhile to get everyone the right amount of HP.

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Originally Posted by Churchill

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Whatever the reason is for not "beating it", it doesn't change the fact that no one at this point has fully beaten Bahamut's Coil. We are at 1 month into launch just about and no one has came out on top on all 5 turns ( as far as people tell me).

If it is a gear check as you are claiming it to be, then Crystal Tower will give Most people the gear they need to even stand a chance against Bahamut.

Not enough HP, people not dodging effectively, doesn't matter. Point is that content has yet to be fully completed and that end game content is doing what it should be doing, giving people trouble.

I just hope they dont make it anymore wow-like than it already is.

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

Pretty sure Yoshi-P stated Coil is meant to be done with Crystal Tower gear, not darklight. In fact, this is one (not the only, of course) of the reasons why Coil is so hard right now.

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I see, so both contents are not related, they are two separate individual end contents. So it’s even possible to do play Bahamut only since your group can’t get 24 people?

Yes, you can play like that as well.

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crystal tower is parallel content to bahamut, not pre content

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Originally Posted by Starlord

People that actually have the time to do weeks upon weeks ( months even) to get 1 AF+2. People that are enjoying the game and not rushing to 50 and doing all the game has to offer "pre-endgame". Even AF+2 for 1 job if your dedicated enough, it can take month(s) to get the full set ( again going off what people say).

Edit: I heard they put a cap on the Mythology Tombs. Getting AF+2 Gear is just about as equal to beating Bahamut's Coil. A lot of people will still need to do Crystal Tower to get the gear, so they don't have to do a long process that is Mythology Tombs.

The ones that got AF+2 on 1 job are probably the same people who actually stood a chance against Bahamut. ( Again, this is speculation)




+1 on this quote, I feel like there are some things people aren't understanding, most people can't even beat Bahamut's Coil. Crystal Tower will be needed one way or another:

1) Looks of the gear
2) People that aren't 50 yet and need awesome gear
3) Even the people that can't beat Bahamut's Coil with the Darklight Armor even with probably need to tap Crystal Tower in some way.
4) Isn't there some story going to be in Crystal Tower as well?

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Correction, most people haven't even tried bahamut's coil.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Whatever the reason is for not "beating it", it doesn't change the fact that no one at this point has fully beaten Bahamut's Coil. We are at 1 month into launch just about and no one has came out on top on all 5 turns ( as far as people tell me).

If it is a gear check as you are claiming it to be, then Crystal Tower will give Most people the gear they need to even stand a chance against Bahamut.

Not enough HP, people not dodging effectively, doesn't matter. Point is that content has yet to be fully completed and that end game content is doing what it should be doing, giving people trouble.

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Also, Turn 5 has been beaten already.

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Originally Posted by Reika

Correction, most people haven't even tried bahamut's coil.



Also, Turn 5 has been beaten already.

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Correction, most people haven't even tried bahamut's coil.

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Even more a reason why Crystal Tower will be a benefit

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Also, Turn 5 has been beaten already.

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That's good to know, by who?