Gear Score, in my ARR?

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Originally Posted by Zumi

You do realize some gearscore system is needed to gate the dungeon/raid finder. Because someone with very bad gear missing stuff queuing up and then bringing their whole group down because they don't have adequate gear for the dungeon they want to run. That would just ruin the whole run for everyone that queued up.

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Then perhaps the game shouldn't be designed around playing with totally random strangers from different servers outside of your own control.

"Queing up" for content just isn't really in my priority list for what I want to see in 2.0, Gearscore does nothing but sound alarm bells about other thing the devs may be planning such as out-dating gear weeks after it was introduced. Begining a unstopable spiral into power-creep that can't be stopped and eventually implodes on itself. WoW has struggled with this issue for years and I doubt SE will get the same grace that WoW gets with it's players.

I'd also like to point out something regarding the "Raid Finder" thing related to "Gearscore".

Any hardcore players, with Gearscore fanticism (or w/e you wanna call it)...
why in gods name would you even need a raid finder?

This was mainly meant for Casual players getting things done.

I know a few current LS that can agree with 1 thing...
1 solid group gets hell of alot more things done over and
over than they would in a Pick-up-group or a Raid-finder option.

Most of these LS are the ones that have Relic Weapons btw.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

If I get into the Alpha/Beta this will be one of the issues I'll be extremly critical on. Gearscore enforces trivialized gear sets instead of letting people be creative with the stats they want to roll with.

I'd rather not enforce cookie cutter builds anymore than the community does as it is.

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I find it hilariously ironic people shit on XI's itemization yet Gearscore is essentially the same damn thing, people are expecting players to have adequate if not BiS gear or even situational gear when going through the content finder, which is exactly what you did in XI, you got the BiS gear even if it's something that lasted for years, you had the BiS.

So essentially, all it's for is a system that shouldn't even be implemented and just let servers sort themselves out, rather than having to cross-server and be determined by your number rather than skill, because I can safely say most people who play XIV now don't know how to play, hell most players still doesn't realize you can revive players with an item which can help you recover from an unfortunate wipe.

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Originally Posted by Darkhaund

I personally think this is a terrible idea
Another wow feature

This game is becoming a wow clone

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They added swords that hit enemies and do damage... And magic!

Totally a WoW clone, never playing this junk again!

As long as this game doesn't have AION's drop rates, then I don't see the problem.

Me playing AION pre-3.0 (3.0 didn't change much, unfortunately... just change besh temple to another dungeon and you win):
OH? JUST FINISHED TANKING MY 85982TH BESHMUNDIR TEMPLE AND FINALLY GOT 1 GOLD PIECE OF ARMOR!? FFFFFFokay.
*spends 200m on high-levelled manastones (materia but more expensive and trollish)*
OH S**T! MANAGED TO GET 5/6 OF MY SLOTS FILLED!
*manastone chaaaarging*
*CRACK! all manastones depleted. Grats on wasting 200m and having a useless gold drop that sucks without the gear bonus!*
Me: FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!11!111

Yeah... as long as the gear isn't asinine to get and mod then I don't see a problem with gearscores. Well, other than the fact that the elitist a**holes now have a new sex toy to uncomfortably fumble with.

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Thinking about AION's drop rate and manastones made me a sad panda. I needs a hug. D:

I don't mind gear scores as long as it is not too ridiculous. There is always that awkward moment when someone joins your PT for a prime and they are missing jewelry, feet, belt, etc..any of these things. Then when you ask them they pretend like they didn't see your question...yeah :/

Peoples gear does not need to be top tier super melded...just as long as they have something decent. AF is fine...idc, nq jewelry of course is fine too, etc...as long as they have something there :)

I absolutely abhor gear score. It leads to people being unfairly excluded from events and guilds. It was part of the reason I quit WoW. I had gotten into the game more (Mostly for the PvP) but I decided that I wanted to do dungeons. Every guild I tried to join wouldn't let me because my gear score wasn't up to their standard.

In other words: To get better gear, I needed to do dungeons. In order to be able to do dungeons, I needed better gear. It's the biggest catch 22 there ever was.

Right now, stuff like that doesn't happen much. Hard Garuda and Rivenroad are difficult fights and those two, groups understandably have some standards- but the vast majority of this game doesn't require the best of the best gear to complete.

Best part about Garuda though, people want everyone to go overboard even though it won't really do much, especially since people beat her in full AF varied party setups lol.

So yeah, all Gearscore does is just give the people who'll exclude others even more reason to do. This game will definitely die a painful death if stuff like this continues. I don't like nor hate the system itself, I dislike the catch 22 that comes with it.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Best part about Garuda though, people want everyone to go overboard even though it won't really do much, especially since people beat her in full AF varied party setups lol.

So yeah, all Gearscore does is just give the people who'll exclude others even more reason to do. This game will definitely die a painful death if stuff like this continues. I don't like nor hate the system itself, I dislike the catch 22 that comes with it.

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It's an interesting statistic, it's just that fact that it gets misused that makes me hate it.

Gear score + content finder = genius