Square is risking BIG lawsuit with pictomancer...

Just found out this old MMO called World of Warcraft (never heard of it) has Warrior and Paladin classes in it. Is Square in trouble? Are they going to be sued by Buzzard Entertainment (creator of Wow)

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Originally Posted by Emitans

Just found out this old MMO called World of Warcraft (never heard of it) has Warrior and Paladin classes in it. Is Square in trouble? Are they going to be sued by Buzzard Entertainment (creator of Wow)

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All the games from Baldurs Gate and similar from the past also has Paladin in them too... also BARD and Rogue.... uh... they don't complain either.... something with old folklore about Dark Knights too...

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Originally Posted by Emitans

Just found out this old MMO called World of Warcraft (never heard of it) has Warrior and Paladin classes in it. Is Square in trouble? Are they going to be sued by Buzzard Entertainment (creator of Wow)

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I know you are just tongue-in-cheek, but anyway....

Paladin as a class goes back to the original "Greyhawk" supplement for Dungeons&Dragons, from 1975. But that version of paladins was in turn heavily inspired by the novel "Three Hearts and Three Lions" by Poul Anderson, from 1961.
But the word "paladin" and the whole idea of them can be traced back to at least the middle-ages, and originally referred to the legendary Twelve Peers at Charlemagne's court, and to the knights of the round table from Arthurian mythology.

As for "Warrior" .... that concept has existed for at least as long as written history.

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Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf

I don't know if they took inspiration from Artist from LoA, but I'm worried about BIG lawsuit coming from Nixon. Since Nixon owns LoA and has been very aggressive about lawsuit before. The only saving grace is that they are in Korea and Square is in Japan so it will be harder for them to sue. I think Square made a huge mistake because Pictomancer is too like Artist... If Nixon sues Square successfully they may need to delete Pictomancer from the game as a settlement, so hold off on leveling it for now... Wait and see.

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So first of all, you misspelled Nexon. Second of all, Nexon has nothing to do with Lost Ark (actually didn't know it was abbreviated LoA).
Third, who cares? A paintbrush-wielding artist class isn't exactly a novel concept.

Can't wait for Dynasty Warriors (Samurai Warriors? One of em) to get in on this, since they have a person who draws magical attacks with a paintbrush too!

Gonna be a paintbrush free for all.

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Originally Posted by Bun_Vivant

You dismissed someone else's remarks because they weren't a lawyer.
Why shouldn't people dismiss your remarks for that same reason?

Unless, of course, you care to cite the sections of the pertinent statutes that support your allegation, why those statutes from that nation apply, and the relevant court decisions interpreting them ? Surely if you're well versed in copyright law, you can do that, right? In the US, it will be in Title 17 of the United States Code, but it has not been established that US copyright law applies to your allegations.



Nope, that's not how copyright law works, at least, not in any signatories to the Berne Convention that I'm aware of. You're making me doubt that your "study law on the internet" was at all productive. Did it include reading a court's opinion in a successful suit for copying a class in a video game? Does such a precedent even exist? I didn't encounter it in law school, but that was quite a while ago.

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Copyright applies to the entire game. When you sign the game you have to agree to their EUAL, which means you AGREE it's copyrighted...

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Congratulations. You managed to identify Nexon, the producer of MapleStories. However, you failed to identify the actual producer of Lost Ark, which is definitely not Nexon. Smilegate RPG/Tripod Studio and Amazon Games own Lost Ark.

You've managed to ignore this for over a week now: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ancer.../page3

Give it a rest. Your ten hours of Google-Fu were worthless.

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You're wrong. Nixon owns Lost Ark. Nixon is a "Publisher", which means they have many subsidiaiaries.

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Originally Posted by Emitans

Just found out this old MMO called World of Warcraft (never heard of it) has Warrior and Paladin classes in it. Is Square in trouble? Are they going to be sued by Buzzard Entertainment (creator of Wow)

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I explain for the one billion trillion quintillion millionth time XD

Warrior and Paladin are in the creative "Commons" so they can be used by anyone because copyright expire and turn into creative commons after a long time. Artist is not though since it's "New", so it isn't creative "Commons" yet.

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Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf

You're wrong. Nixon owns Lost Ark. Nixon is a "Publisher", which means they have many subsidiaiaries.

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Nixon was a president of the United States the game publisher your talking about is nexon and no one owns copyrights to a class in a game that wields a paintbrush. Rem from ff6 used a paintbrush as a weapon maybe square enix should sue nexon if you think someone should get sued.

Why is there 12 pages over this nonsense?!? (i know it's ironic for me to post this here)
This is pointless.