Ishgard Housing Details are Out

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Originally Posted by Jagick

This. The majority of the playerbase doesn't give two kupos about the neighborhood system, they just want a personal space to decorate. I have a hard time believing that an MMO as profitable as FFXIV is has such crappy servers than it can't handle even a small apartment for each player which are only rendered when entered. If the situation is really that bad the entire engine needs and overhaul and they need to stop pussyfooting around it. Even (technically) free to play MMOs such as Aion, Runes of Magic, and SWTOR (at their peak) managed to have instanced housing for every single player no problem. City of Heroes had massive custom bases for any super group that wanted them. Star Wars Galaxies had physical in world housing by the thousands across multiple worlds, all you had to do was find a location in world to place the structure and you could have like 3-4 at a time depending on the size.

Seriously, what's holding FFXIV back? I wish they'd directly address this and explain in detail what the problem is. I personally have a feeling it has something to do with the old 1.0 spaghetti code they built ARR on top of.

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It's been said before that the devs are very much dead set on having the exclusive ward housing system and neighborhoods. Similar to how LOTRO has theirs set up, minus paying for rent every week. They most likely could easily give some form of instanced housing, they just don't want to. That's literally why we're getting the lottery & Island Sanctuary, they're compromises.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Instanced housing is also a bandaid system. :)


Cheers

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No, it's a realistic system that means everyone gets to enjoy that feature of the game.

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilley

Why didn't they split the wards? Half lottery half RNG clicking. At least let people pick their poison.

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Because a lotto allows SE to wash their hands of their terrible housing system.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

It's been said before that the devs are very much dead set on having the exclusive ward housing system and neighborhoods. Similar to how LOTRO has theirs set up, minus paying for rent every week. They most likely could easily give some form of instanced housing, they just don't want to. That's literally why we're getting the lottery & Island Sanctuary, they're compromises.

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I wouldn't consider the lottery system a compromise of any sort, it's just another flawed system but the best they can do given the circumstances of what they want. As for the Island Sanctuary, there is still no indicator as to whether or not that will have any housing or interior decoration system at all.

One thing they don't appear to be too clear on is if the one person ticket per plot per character thing is separating entries for FCs and personal housing. Given it looks like some plots will be FC only, and others personal only, so that gives me hope for a seperation. Because while I will be putting in for the plot my small FC chooses [we are aiming for medium], I also want the chance to snag a personal small or medium plot for my own decorating purposes as well.

Honestly, as annoying as the system is, that really is my only grip. Without it, bots buy and sellers resell the properties. With it, bots buy and sellers resell the property, they just have to put in more time (on nine day cycles) and put in more effort.
It's a braindead and a stupid fix that is only marginally better and fairer then the system currently present. Larger FCs do seem to benefit though, as they will have more members, and are more likely to have the capital to buy out Large (or medium plots if they have to settle for that), but I guess plots either being Personal or FC should put a little bit of an anchor in that (and if it is designed that way, I guess it makes sense. More people, more funds, thus a larger property. It would seem questionable from some people's perspective to see 4 man fc hold a large plot while a 100 man one gets stuck on a small one, and it is a fair point to make weather you agree or disagree and that's a matter of opinion really).

Starting to wonder if introducing an aggressive taxation system alongside the current demolition timer would be a good idea? I always found it confusing that housing was a 'one-and-done' deal, and given that paying taxation would both take gil out of the economy, and also disincentivize house ownership for the sake of house ownership (a noticeable problem on smaller servers), it could potentially be a positive move that reduces the problem of some subdivisions being almost entirely 'empty'. It'd also IMO be a good way of targeting the handful of known oligarchs who hold a substantial amount of player housing.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

They most likely could easily give some form of instanced housing, they just don't want to.

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Please cite evidence for this (common) assertion.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

Starting to wonder if introducing an aggressive taxation system alongside the current demolition timer would be a good idea? I always found it confusing that housing was a 'one-and-done' deal, and given that paying taxation would both take gil out of the economy, and also disincentivize house ownership for the sake of house ownership (a noticeable problem on smaller servers), it could potentially be a positive move that reduces the problem of some subdivisions being almost entirely 'empty'. It'd also IMO be a good way of targeting the handful of known oligarchs who hold a substantial amount of player housing.

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I've seen this idea pop up every so often. It's just as terrible each time.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I've seen this idea pop up every so often. It's just as terrible each time.

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Yeah, the better option is just to tack each house onto your monthly subscription, like how you have to pay extra for retainers. $5.00/monthly sounds about ok.

this is sarcasm, pls don't kill me

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

Starting to wonder if introducing an aggressive taxation system alongside the current demolition timer would be a good idea? I always found it confusing that housing was a 'one-and-done' deal, and given that paying taxation would both take gil out of the economy, and also disincentivize house ownership for the sake of house ownership (a noticeable problem on smaller servers), it could potentially be a positive move that reduces the problem of some subdivisions being almost entirely 'empty'. It'd also IMO be a good way of targeting the handful of known oligarchs who hold a substantial amount of player housing.

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No. It wouldn't.