Please let me skip MSQ

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Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont

It's not about the MSQ being forced on them. My entire point was that the current "skip" system allows a small buffer of levels, in the form of the current expansion content, to give them the opportunity to learn.

I stated that some people would learn fast. Most probably wouldn't. At the very least, this buffer at least ensures they aren't being instantly thrown into current endgame dungeons, trials and expert roulette. If by the time they get there and still don't learn, that's on them. But the buffer existing gives the players who want to learn, an opportunity to, outside of the level capped environment of a job.

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The thing is that small buffer by no means adds much of anything. If someone skips they will need to do their HW if they wish to be proficient, the player will need that personal desire buffer or not. The story does ensure for the most part people see certain things at the very least and are drip feed certain mechanics but one is still free to ignore such things and just basic combo their way to victory (aka get carried through the content).

Just speedrun it, I promise it'll take no more than 6-8 hours tops if you skip cutscenes, even faster if you have no irl distractions. That's what I'm doing for my alt, already at the level 85 dungeon about 4 hours in.

What really happened: They just came from wow and bought the story skip to 80 and are upset they can't go all the way. The whole "let me play with my friends" thing is a sham.

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Originally Posted by Franny

All my friends play this game and they are already done with MSQ. I have barely started because I don't have a lot of time especially with the long queues. I don't care about the story I just want to have a good time with my friends doing dungeons. But I haven't been able to do that because everything new is locked.
The game is actively preventing me from playing with my friends. I have cried over this.
I want to have a good time when I get home from work and not be stuck running from point A to B for days completely alone because I have to earn the ability to not be alone in a multi-player game.

At this point I regret asking my friends to play this game with me because I isolated myself because I can't keep up anymore.

Please just let me play with my friends. :(

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Are they not helping you out with MSQ? I have friends who don't get to play much and are still in Shadowbringers. Every time they log in, I make time to help them through their quests. We just fought Vauthry a couple nights ago. Sounds like your friends just don't want to play with you. Find new friends.

Just play the story. It's good.

You can finnish EW MSQ in 17 hours, probably even faster if you spam click and skip cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

What really happened: They just came from wow and bought the story skip to 80 and are upset they can't go all the way. The whole "let me play with my friends" thing is a sham.

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Ugh. Is that really necessary? Who cares who they came from and who are we to say that they are somehow lying about their reasoning? GCBTW


Honestly, you sound like one of their "friends."

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Originally Posted by Franny

All my friends play this game and they are already done with MSQ. I have barely started because I don't have a lot of time especially with the long queues. I don't care about the story I just want to have a good time with my friends doing dungeons. But I haven't been able to do that because everything new is locked.
The game is actively preventing me from playing with my friends. I have cried over this.
I want to have a good time when I get home from work and not be stuck running from point A to B for days completely alone because I have to earn the ability to not be alone in a multi-player game.

At this point I regret asking my friends to play this game with me because I isolated myself because I can't keep up anymore.

Please just let me play with my friends. :(

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This is something that will become a more raging issues say they are eight expansions in and someone new joins and wants to play with their friends that are current, you will have a long road ahead of you beforehand aside from them queueing with you when the story requires a dungeon or similar.

With that said, Endwalker can be completed in about a day if you skip all cutscenes, all dialog and just go. To help with queues you can even use trust and the NPCs help with learning mechanics as well, so you'll be with your friends in no time. Don't be disheartened. You made it to lv eighty this is only the beginning so your friends who have completed everything will eventually resort to just leveling other jobs while waiting anyway and in that they will join you on your journey more likely than not.

My question is : what do you hope to do at "endgame" with friends? Because if that's your MAJOR goal, understand that, as of right this moment, the only "endgame" is 2 EX trails and 4 normal raid fights. And anyone concerned with "endgame" is going to do all 4 normal raids on Tuesday and be already farmed out on the EX trails. Like I don't even do them anymore unless someone asks, I just log in and farm crafter scrips or level an alt job or do old pre6.0 content I still haven't done. The endgame you want to do with your friends might not even be content they wanna do anymore because they've farmed it to death already. If your friends are not willing to play catch up with you NOW while you're doing MSQ, when they can level alt jobs and actually get something out of helping, I don't feel like they'd wanna play catch up to grind out things they've already farmed.

The patch cycle is set up in such a way that you are given months to get caught up through story to get in to the "endgame". 6.0 -> Savage Raid is a month's difference, and you don't even have to do the EX trails or dungeons to get gear as you can just craft or buy your way in to it. 6.0 -> 6.1 is going to be like 3 months of a difference at least. You have plenty of time to just chill and play catch up, even if you're skipping cutscenes.

The argument that you enjoyed the story in ARR when we weren't the "super chosen one" is bizarre to me because we always have been. Hydaelyn, the literal will of the planet, tells you you are her chosen in the first cutscene you see upon making a character. The only difference from then till now is our understanding of what that entails and our recognition from others.

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Originally Posted by Lhumierre

This is something that will become a more raging issues say they are eight expansions in and someone new joins and wants to play with their friends that are current, you will have a long road ahead of you beforehand aside from them queueing with you when the story requires a dungeon or similar.

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7.0 is the "perfect" time to discuss a new new player experience. The fact that a new story is starting allows Squenix to sit down and somehow figure out a way to let people start with the new story line. It's certainly possible that they won't because they don't want to give up their revenue from story/level skips.

Ideally, whenever creating a character you'd have an option to start a character in the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story or the new story. If you select the new story, then maybe you play through a "short" tutorial, a couple of hours, which levels you to 90 and teaches you a little bit about the world. Then you can start where everyone is at, and can do a New Game+ if you want to learn the Hydaelyn/Zodiark story.

Like I said, who knows if that's what they'll do, but I feel like it's important to change this for new players.