Openly admitting to ignoring the players

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Who knows, it's not like WHM and SCH don't already need to go melee to cast Holy/AoW (Gods I hate AoW so much tho...), not to mention DNC is technically a melee job when regarding their aoe rotation, RDM has a melee phase, SMN and SGE(?) have gap closers, and NIN is [jokingly] considered an honorary ranged job - I think that while making a pure melee healer a la WoW holy paladin or Diablo monk would be impossible, designing a healer with a kit heavily involved in short distance combat/healing can be done.

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Good to know there are some people use Holy, Art of War in 8 man raids

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Originally Posted by Moenblyss

"We know there are some people who want the complexity of 3.0 but we're building on 5.0 (read: Homogenization and easiness of play)"

If you were actually listening to the broadcast they opened up with this.

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Mentioned above - Here's the Twitch clip to where they start talking about game direction regarding complexity: https://clips.twitch.tv/InquisitiveC...pbATBFRl34z657

"And of course there are a small group of you that desire for that complexity of what we've done in the 3.0 series... But I'm afraid we won't go in that direction."

The Devs aren't ignoring you. If you continue watching the live letter at this point - the chat is filled with "GOOD" regarding the game direction. The supposed thousands who want more complexity is out weighed by the 80k people who showed up for the live letter spamming their approval.

If you really want change, making these types of knee-jerk reaction threads is unconstructive. Create a "Show your support! <insert desired feature>" thread. Let the likes do the talking. I'm sure the near 2000 likes the Male Viera thread got is a huge factor as to why they've been added in 6.0.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Good to know there are some people use Holy, Art of War in 8 man raids

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Adds are rare in raids, but at least I do use Holy if I need to. That said, I'm speaking in general gameplay, not specifically 8 man raids.

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Originally Posted by Byonka

The Devs aren't ignoring you. If you continue watching the live letter at this point - the chat is filled with "GOOD" regarding the game direction. The supposed thousands who want more complexity is out weighed by the 80k people who showed up for the live letter spamming their approval.

If you really want change, making these types of knee-jerk reaction threads is unconstructive. Create a "Show your support! <insert desired feature>" thread. Let the likes do the talking. I'm sure the near 2000 likes the Male Viera thread got is a huge factor as to why they've been added in 6.0.

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We have that thread already. Its the "A summary of healer issues" thread https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5348029 that has currently 49 pages with the very first post outlining what we want as healers, what we want as WHM, what we want as SCH, and what we want as AST.

They still didn't listen.

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Originally Posted by ASkellington

We have that thread already. Its the "A summary of healer issues" thread https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5348029 that has currently 49 pages with the very first post outlining what we want as healers, what we want as WHM, what we want as SCH, and what we want as AST.

They still didn't listen.

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The problem is you see them as issues while most players see them as good things. If sch loses ED and their Dot I will be happy. Then I just want them to fix seraph timer to be longer and honestly I would feel happy to play the class. Dissipation is whatever.

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Originally Posted by ASkellington

We have that thread already. Its the "A summary of healer issues" thread https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5348029 that has currently 49 pages with the very first post outlining what we want as healers, what we want as WHM, what we want as SCH, and what we want as AST.

They still didn't listen.

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They did listen. 173 people showed their support. "A small group".

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Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in

The problem is you see them as issues while most players see them as good things. If sch loses ED and their Dot I will be happy. Then I just want them to fix seraph timer to be longer and honestly I would feel happy to play the class. Dissipation is whatever.

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Just remove Broil while you're at it too. Let healers transition completely to part-time team members. No raid-wide or tank buster? Don't bother me, I'm trying to watch Kay's Cooking on youtube.

Summoner is finally getting real summons, but what if we let players be the summons? Just jump in after a big AoE to cast an Indom and then immediately leave. Cast Summon again if you need me, I'll be alt+tabbed.

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Originally Posted by Boizinho

Just remove Broil while you're at it too. Let healers transition completely to part-time team members. No raid-wide or tank buster? Don't bother me, I'm trying to watch Kay's Cooking on youtube.

Summoner is finally getting real summons, but what if we let players be the summons? Just jump in after a big AoE to cast an Indom and then immediately leave. Cast Summon again if you need me, I'll be alt+tabbed.

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Now you are just being silly. Why can't you just realize many healers prob majority hate having to balance a healing rotation for “optimal dps” while managing other players life. This breeds toxicity because unlike dps where their rotation is barely disturbed by bad players it is on healers and isn't good for them or the game. If it's all simple and the same parse lords can ignore the classes and go focus on dps as they should

Wait what??

Did u all forget that they legit said all healers is getting a holy treatment with their AoE skills ....

That means Art of War 2 now does more then just "damage" and that all healers can provide buffs to the party

At this current time we DO NOT have the new tool tips for the current healers, the only healer we have tool tips on is sage and that's it

We don't even know if glare/broil/malefic does new things, we do not know what the new gravity/holy/art of war does either

At this current time scholars are throwing their hands in the air AGAIN before even knowing anything at all

Sigh this is just a repeat history of 3.X where scholar legit panicked over AST......Now it's panicking over SAGE, scholars always panic over any new healing job that gets put into the game

Been here for 8 years in total and history repeats it self .....sigh

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Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in

Now you are just being silly. Why can't you just realize many healers prob majority hate having to balance a healing rotation for “optimal dps” while managing other players life. This breeds toxicity because unlike dps where their rotation is barely disturbed by bad players it is on healers and isn't good for them or the game. If it's all simple and the same parse lords can ignore the classes and go focus on dps as they should

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It's true managing a rotation would be hard if it was always interupted when you had to heal. If only they had a way to make some actions not interrupt the rotations... oh wait...