Alliance raids have no business being a relic step.

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Originally Posted by Arkevorkhat

So... Because he disagrees with you he's clueless?

Besides, what's up with you anyways? You've repeatedly claimed to have played during Stormblood, yet your forum account isn't anywhere near that old, and your character's highest level job is Black Mage at 60.

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That guy likes to enter threads, argue with people until they give up out of frustration and then claim they've won. lol I won't bother with them from here on out, and neither should you. Just looking to spare you that if I can.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

That guy likes to enter threads, argue with people until they give up out of frustration and then claim they've won. lol I won't bother with them from here on out, and neither should you. Just looking to spare you that if I can.

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That's fair. Thank you for that.

Frustrating that people like that exist, but I guess it's inevitable that when you have as many players as FF14 does, you're gonna get a few problem people.

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Originally Posted by Arkevorkhat

That's fair. Thank you for that.

Frustrating that people like that exist, but I guess it's inevitable that when you have as many players as FF14 does, you're gonna get a few problem people.

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Aside from a few bad apples we're generally a pleasant bunch. :p Unless some sort of change to the game is made, then it's anarchy. We don't like change around these parts, even if we don't understand it ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Aside from a few bad apples we're generally a pleasant bunch. :p Unless some sort of change to the game is made, then it's anarchy. We don't like change around these parts, even if we don't understand it ourselves.

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I feel that, and I guess I'm not immune to it either; I rolled in here complaining about a change that was made, even though there's a probably equally sized group of people who like the choice of using Alliance Raids instead of world content.

Ignoring the obvious bullying and harassment you finally admitted that the world doesn't revolve around you when it comes to the Bozja/old content dynamic the devs decided to implement in this relic step. You're literally agreeing with us when we said that as much as you don't like alliance raids, there are others like myself who dislike everything Eureka and Bozja stand form in terms of relic design. Took you 12 pages of throwing tantrums though.

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Originally Posted by Arkevorkhat

So... Because he disagrees with you he's clueless?

Besides, what's up with you anyways? You've repeatedly claimed to have played during Stormblood, yet your forum account isn't anywhere near that old, and your character's highest level job is Black Mage at 60.

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Disregading of their character level, trolling or not, a quick reminder: The forum join date has nothing to do with how long they have been playing the game. These are two entire seperate dates. Technically someone could have played since beta or the beginning of 2.0 and just have created their forum account yesterday. The only(?) way to see behind this is the Lodestone profile, I think.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

I know we like to joke about glamour being the "true endgame" but Enix time and time again overestimate how much we care about it. This was a big reason Castrum died, because they honestly thought 500-1000 coins for a 495 glamour item would be enough to make us spam it 50 times.

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Semantics perhaps, but I don't think they're overestimating how much we care, but how much we're willing to put ourselves through because of that care.

Ultimately I didn't like the Judge gear that much, but if I did - yes I would still care very much that I wanted it, but it wouldn't make me willing to go through the grind to get it. One dyeable outfit isn't worth that effort.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Semantics perhaps, but I don't think they're overestimating how much we care, but how much we're willing to put ourselves through because of that care.

Ultimately I didn't like the Judge gear that much, but if I did - yes I would still care very much that I wanted it, but it wouldn't make me willing to go through the grind to get it. One dyeable outfit isn't worth that effort.

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I think this is the real crux of the issue here, the specific duty aside, the amount of trouble we're expected to go to for almost everything in patch 5.45 (the notable exception being BLU), is significantly higher than one might be up for. I get the feeling that this will be adjusted in future, though I doubt that the chosen duties will change, regardless of my or anyone else's feelings on the matter.

Edit to add: Regarding the dyable judge gear, the requirements are frankly absurd, and I doubt that SE really intends for people to get it in a reasonable timeframe; The upgrade item drops from Delubrum Reginae (Savage) at a rare rate, but you get a guaranteed 1/10th of a random upgrade item each clear. In addition to that item, you need a set of augmented Bozjan gear, which costs (depending on the piece) as much as 1027 bozjan coins, and a non-augmented Law's Order piece, costing between 2 and 4 Bozjan Gold Coins.

Honestly, I worry that this is a sign of the development team moving towards increasing the player count for the highest level content, and I don't believe that that would be a wise decision. Imagine if, in order to do a savage raid, you had to get together 2 full parties, I think that'd be more than enough to completely kill casual raiding.

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Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi

Disregading of their character level, trolling or not, a quick reminder: The forum join date has nothing to do with how long they have been playing the game. These are two entire seperate dates. Technically someone could have played since beta or the beginning of 2.0 and just have created their forum account yesterday. The only(?) way to see behind this is the Lodestone profile, I think.

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Also, I've noticed a pattern of people using alts on their forums accounts. Either because they're trolls, they don't want people searching for their main's logs, etc. so they can hide behind a basically anonymous account because there's no link to their main character.

I'm always pretty suspicious of people who do that; even I don't do that, and I can get a bit paranoid sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Ultimately I didn't like the Judge gear that much, but if I did - yes I would still care very much that I wanted it, but it wouldn't make me willing to go through the grind to get it. One dyeable outfit isn't worth that effort.

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Yep! Frankly, even if the gear looked AMAZING. I still would think the grind was not only near impossible, but not even worth it. I wouldn't do it even for ONE set.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

Also, I've noticed a pattern of people using alts on their forums accounts. Either because they're trolls, they don't want people searching for their main's logs, etc. so they can hide behind a basically anonymous account because there's no link to their main character.

I'm always pretty suspicious of people who do that; even I don't do that, and I can get a bit paranoid sometimes.

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My name is SturmChurro, my character's name is Sturm Churro, and even my alt is attached to this profile, but I've still had people accuse me of being an alt (I hope they were kidding). :( But yes, a lot people seem to like to hide behind alts, agreed.