Viera can't use the new Modern Aesthetics - Modern Legend

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Originally Posted by Celef

And yet, they add those hairstyles and hats for races that a less played than Vieras, like Elezen or Roe, even thoug it adds works for them to make it match the head shape (especially for Elezen and their pointy ears).

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Any modifications needed for Elezen are also needed for Lalafell and Au Ra.

(And occasionally they forget to do that. There's one hairstyle - it looks like a shorter version of Urianger's hair and is next to it in the list - that doesn't have an 'opening' for ears and they just clip straight through.)

As I said earlier though, I really think that whatever is causing this lack of availability, it's not just a matter of the time it takes to adapt it.

I'm not saying the lack of hairstyles is necessarily justifiable, just that it seems like the reason must be something more than "they were lazy and decided not to do it to save work", because it doesn't seem like it would be that much work in the grand scheme of everything they need to do.

They avoid explaining their technical issues, but I think there must be one. Somewhere. Surely they have more pride in their work than to leave it undone because they could do it but don't want to.

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Originally Posted by Enla

The older hairstyles and hats I can understand being delayed as that's busy work that's outside the scope of whatever the team has to focus on for each patch release, hence it'd get shoved to the back-burner more often than not. I don't like it, but I can accept it to a certain extent. When it comes to new hair and hats however I really don't think they have any excuses anymore. This is content that's being developed specifically within the scope of the patch cycle. It's being edited and made to work with every other race concurrently and they can't be bothered to make it work for Viera as well? I would love to hear the explanation for this but I doubt we'll ever be given one.

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Hairstyles might come eventually, but they said early on that headgear wouldn't display at all - it was a design choice, not a scheduling issue. The things that did get added due to player request are ones that don't interfere with the hairstyle but sit over it or on the face.

I don't know about Viera, but I'm assuming that Hrothgar wouldn't be able to partly 'switch off' the hair model when hats are equipped, because of how they've been implemented as part of the face and not the usual hairstyle setting that's instead controlling their fur pattern.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Yet, I don't see the issue with Viera. YES, their ears ar customable and bigger than the other races BUT :
- You "just" need 2 holes for the ears, like the kitties

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Actually, Miqo'te ears are modelled into the hairstyle itself. It's a different system to Viera ears that are a separate element of the model.

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Originally Posted by Celef

EDIT: they did not bother to care about the clipping issues for all the other hairstyles so why would they try now ? false excuse
And we are juste discussing hairstyles here.....

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You do realise that's the one independently-released Korean set that hasn't been approved to be put in the main game? Everything else (to my knowledge) has been transferred over, including things implemented later, and despite requests for it to be added.

The other complaints about hairstyle clipping are valid, but that screenshot is what people post to demonstrate why that dress isn't available.

So, I just learned Viera cannot use a new hairstyle added post launch. Just adding another complaint about how ridiculous this is. They're about to lose my business if they keep putting in such little effort. Very disappointing Enix....

I don't understand why the new hairstyle wouldn't be usable by the new races. Seems a little backwards. Yes I know half of the races due to how they do textures and models are linked and just get lumped into one another but is it that much more work to adjust the hair slightly for the custom ears on the new races? Don't say face clipping or shoulder/back clipping cause that happens on half of the hairs now to this day with all races so that's not a valid excuse. I love this game, I have a active FC I play the content but I just feel they aren't addressing the issues that should be focused instead of adding in other things that weren't asked for.

At the very least if you are going to release a hair that doesn't work with x race... put that in the description of the item so people don't buy it only to find out they can't use it. Just a thought. I hate to break it to them.. but now is not the time to be lazy and put off character customization options as a 'we'll maybe get to it'. Right around the corner WoW is doing a full on overhaul of the player character customization and while hair styles seem minor now.. yes it could be the make or breaking point for people if they want to stick around or not.

I remember in one of the letters they mentioned they will add exclusive viera only hairstyles but with a cost that we won't be able to use normal hairstyles like others can.

I am surprised they still haven't added atleast one or 2 new hairstyles for viera, we need to know when they gonna add them so theres something positive to look forward to. With each new hat/hair not able to be used on new races the bigger the dissapointment.

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I don't wear headgear ever and always keep it turned off. I like my hairstyle options. Do I agree they need more for both Viera and Hrothgar, yes. Am I happy my character model and face has way more polygons and details than you'll ever have? Heck yes! I will take a more detailed character model over hairstyle options and headgear. I look freaking fantastic in cutscenes.

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Well, a lot of people enjoy helms and are dissatisfied that they can't use the modern aesthetic hairstyles.

To me it sounds mostly like either:

a) Lazy work: the people sit on the drawing table creating new items, then the 3D artist is adapting the helms for every race... when they come to the new ones they simply choose to ignore because they are already botched in that department anyway.

b) They didn't figure out how to make helms work for them yet - One would think they'd be able since they could make them work for Au Ra horns, which seems to be just as complex as big bunny ears. I get though that Hrothgar is a whole different story because the lion heads are especifically unique, but then that's only for full helm type of items. Hats for example, just sit on top of their heads.

I would be satisfied if they would at least put a disclaimer in the descriptions of hairstyles that Ronso and Viera can't use, lmao

Funny that ones that do mods for the game can make hair styles for on both new races but SE can't. Now I have seen pictures of male Viera that ones did mods for. SE needs to quit slacking off on two new races.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Funny that ones that do mods for the game can make hair styles for on both new races but SE can't. Now I have seen pictures of male Viera that ones did mods for. SE needs to quit slacking off on two new races.

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Answered on the first page

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Modders don't have deadlines and stockholders breathing down their neck.

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I suspect that the issue is tied to Hrothgar. Viera are close enough to human that the only real problem they might have is ears clipping, and that hasn't stopped Miqo'te or Elezen ears or Au Ra horns from poking through everything. (Well, the floppy ears might look worse, basically clipping twice on wide-brimmed hats, but.) Hrothgar heads require more work to properly fit headgear, and since the coding treats Viera and Hrothgar as opposite genders of one race, they can't give one something without giving it to the other as well. And then there's the whole fiasco with Hrothgar getting screwed with the aesthetician.....

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Originally Posted by JowyAtreides

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Sounds like you think it's ok for SE to not bring out new hair styles for new races any other company would make sure all race got them. This means SE thinks it is ok to slack off and not include the new races. If I was in charge of gaming company this would never happen because it makes your company look very bad. If they can't include all races in a new hair style then don't bring it out till they can. It's as simple as that.