They announced how worlds would be shuffled.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Please also note: 2 week process with Free Server transfers that have a 999,999,999 gil limit, 100% housing/apartment reimbursement with 3 mil for house furnishings and 500k for apartment furnishings.

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So people have to loose their houses and friends on a server just because SE is stingy? I don't think so mate.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

I have an existing friend circle, static and housing. Why is it mine or anyone's responsibly to make new friends? What a silly thing to say. People don't want to lose their existing communities nor should they. Hence why they're outraged. If you had ties, maybe you'd appreciate that.

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I'm losing my old static, as well as some old friends. But it is what it is. Its happened every time I moved states too, but that's how things go. I simply just stopped being outraged over things like this a long time ago, as it was bad for my health.

I picked the group of friends i was closest to back when they allowed free transfers off Balmung, and moved with them. It is the same case here.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Getting people more spread out across multiple servers is also helpful.

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Guess it wasn't enough because now look lol.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

My point wasn't to make a cheap shot, but to prove a point. You don't have to be a big shot raider surrounded by other big shot raiders to have a good time and clear content (in this case raids). Everyone jumping ship is just going to cause the same issues from before, except now even RP'ers are apparently jumping ship. So now we have a full datacenter because no one wants to put forth any effort into making new friends or fostering new groups.

I'm all for people moving to stick with friends, and it sucks for those groups being broken up, but to be this outraged and have this kind of reaction to it is simply hilarious to me.


I'm also probably stirring the pot more than i intent to, im bad at wording things correctly. I will end my comments here.

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This game has been out for 5 years.
People have made connections in those 5 years and have played with each other in those 5 years.
To me your comment is like "Oh well, make new friends and move on."
Yeeaaaah. Sorry some people like their friends and I understand the frustrations.

The housing system is going to become an even bigger mess than it already is.

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Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

The one thing being that they would even do this without going the extra mile and making sure that players/FCs that decide to transfer are able to keep their housing intact. Of course, this is quite difficult from a programming standpoint, but it is also the number one roadblock preventing people from transferring in the first place. As it currently is, the only people transferring are the people with little to nothing to leave behind. With Balmung being grouped with all of the low end population servers, it's not really going to work out upon further thought. The people in Balmung with little to lose will just move back to an Aether server to reconnect with friends there instead of going to any other Crystal server, and the raiders of all the other Crystal servers (that are probably already well established enough to own a house and everything due to the low population in the first place) that are to be moved to Crystal are basically completely out of luck.

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Definitely agree this is the worst part, probably because housing is one of the worst systems in the game in general. The other issues, while frustrating for many people, are not completely insurmountable with planning (moving with your friends, doing the exact same organizing you've done before with all the notice, etc.), but your housing situation is almost guaranteed to suffer no matter what you do and that really sucks.

Would be best if they just fixed the whole system so it wasn't the most difficult asset to recreate or even obtain in the first place, but I don't know if they have any good ideas for it.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

If they installed AFK kickers like they did before, we would of never had this problem to start.
The AFK kicker helped tremendously and should do that every time an expansion begins.
They took too long to implement it on SB, like 3 days. Should of done it from the start
if they learned anything from HW launch. Kinda sad because of congestion that people
are forced apart like this when there's a fix for said congestion.

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AFK people have very little to do with this. AFK people have an affect on your specific world, not on the entire data center, or more importantly its instance servers.

Kicking AFKers fixes your login queue. It doesn't fix overloaded instance servers.

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Originally Posted by Jybril

This game has been out for 5 years.
People have made connections in those 5 years and have played with each other in those 5 years.
To me your comment is like "Oh well, make new friends and move on."
Yeeaaaah. Sorry some people like their friends and I understand the frustrations.

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Its been out for 5 years, yet for the first 2 at least of those, maybe 3, i dont remember, you were limited to same server only friends. Maybe thats where the difference in opinion comes into play. I made most of my friends before cross world became a thing.

To every person who has tried to minimize the impact this is having on groups of friends being torn apart - please, I'm trying really hard to not get banned from the forums, don't force my hand.

Right now I am on Zalera with my FC and the majority of my static who I love. Our DRG is on Cactuar and we were so happy to find him at the end of Sigmascape and he fits in perfectly. My best friend in-game is from Adamantoise, sometimes he's literally been the reason I've kept playing so that we have a thing to do together and hang out in discord during. I've got people I care for on servers spread across all 3 data centers now and it was bad enough being unable to play with people from Primal but now it's gotten even worse.

If you think this isn't an absolutely awful decision by SE that showed basically no care for the playerbase or the friendships that have formed via this game I don't know what to tell you. If you think ' Oh well, make new friend's I am literally disgusted by you. Seek therapy, you need help.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The housing system is going to become an even bigger mess than it already is.

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I have a small house but it's in Goblet so wouldn't mind getting full refund and the possibility of getting a way better plot/house on a dead server from Crystal. The free transfer is very tempting.

My main char is on Sarg and I don't raid or have friends so issue of splitting doesn't hurt me much. Moving to Crystal the essential non-crowded Dc might be a good idea for me. However, I'm worried about Crystal's PF scene and queues being beyond horrible.

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Originally Posted by MorfineCeres18

They're just gonna make everyone move to Chaos Data Center and it's gonna be even more congested, it's stupid -.-

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Problem is, I own a house on Shiva since ~2.3, I don't really want to let that go, I got nice friends there and on Odin who, however, don't really raid. So am I to decide now where I want to go? Stay with my casual friends, or move on for raids? What garbage choice is this? It's pretty unfair to make anyone make such an awful choice! And EU isn't even that big, jfc.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

If you think this isn't an absolutely awful decision by SE that showed basically no care for the playerbase or the friendships that have formed via this game I don't know what to tell you. If you think ' Oh well, make new friend's I am literally disgusted by you. Seek therapy, you need help.

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Its hard to not be used to "just making new friends" when as a child you move every 2-4 years, before the internet age and cellphones and constant connectivity were a thing. Maybe that's why im not all that upset, I'm used to it. I don't need therapy for my way of thinking any more than you need therapy for yours.

Anyway, I've said my piece.