Ma'at sucked. I went through him too, but he seriously sucked. His difficulty varied a lot depending on what job you challenged him at (I think RDM was the hardest) and what he taught had zero to do with your job, as opposed to reading a walkthrough and praying to god RNG wouldnt screw you. You actually didn't need him in that game; just surviving the leveling process alone made you skilled enough. Ma'aat was more like those BCNMs that seemed impossible to do but could be done only with fairly precise strategies, and relied on a fair bit of luck too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan
The general player base needs to improve
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03-03-2018, 05:38 AMRiyahArp
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03-03-2018, 06:09 AMBourne_EndeavorBecause Gordias was not properly balanced. Shifting Living Liquid to the fourth fight allows for an easier boss to precede him, thus better preparing players for the upcoming difficulty. I also specifically highlighted tweaking him a bit for balance sake. Regardless, you're also neglecting to mention 3.1 offered no content whatsoever. I would argue people quit more due to the fact outside of Savage you had the following...Quote:
Originally Posted by RiyahArp
Thordon EX
Void Ark
Diadem
Lord of Verminion
This content drought lasted for eight months. Considering Diadem and LoV were universal flops, it's far more likely people left the game due to the utter lack of content, especially since Savage has always remained somewhat niche.
Ironically, you just described difficulty scaling. PotD got easier as you gained strength until it increased again to compensate. If dungeons followed a similar trend, Leveling would be the initial 1-100 floors that eventually get out-scaled while Expert compensates. Unfortunately, the latter has been rendered so braindead easy you scarcely require a pulse.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiyahArp
Actively punishing players for failing mechanics is teaching them—in the same sense making it devoid of any risk inventives ignoring them entirely. When I can get 2-3 vulnerability stacks as the MT in Kefka normal, why do I care to dodge his mechanics? They clearly aren't going to kill me. Now if after a single stack I took substantially higher damage—perhaps being forced back into tank stance—I'll care a whole lot more to avoid them.
You do not require Savage level content to learn the basics. A difficulty curves to steadily increase the challenge at a reasoned pace and can be seen utilized in numerous games. For example sake, let's grab Seymour from FFX. He becomes increasingly more challenging with each encounter assuming you don't overlevel, yet at no point is he ever unbeatable. DPS checks aren't what you need to learn going into Savage, especially as they aren't "harsh" by any standards. You need to learn mechanics and how to properly perform your job—all of which can be readily taught as early as dungeons. Alas, FFXIV refuses to relay any information towards the player and instead hopes better players just pick up the slack. -
03-03-2018, 06:29 AMh0tNstilettos
You can't expect players to ever learn a fight completely if they are not taught the mechanics. This even applies to easier content like dungeons. Some mechanics are obvious and don't need explaining, but this game has a lot of mechanics you can't learn based on observation alone. Some even require certain players to intentionally stand in an AOE that logic tells you to avoid. I tell people when it's my first time doing a duty, and 80% of the time not a single person in the party bothers to explain the mechanics. Some I figure out and some I never can. You also have to consider that this game is very mechanic heavy compared to a typical MMO, so having a good memory is more important than player skill. When there are bosses with 9 phases divided into multiple mechanics each, it's beyond ridiculous. Some bosses can take many weeks just to learn the mechanics by heart, and that's just to memorize it all, then once memorized, serious skill based attempts can be made. Videos don't help as you still have to memorize everything. Players with less than stellar memories will take longer to learn. They can be just as skilled as you, but have a worse memory than you.
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03-03-2018, 06:45 AMNestamaAgain, Extreme Primals is midcore content. Why else would I keep bringing it up? I recommend you try Lakshmi, Susano and Byakko Extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShanXiv
Fun story, Byakko bugged out and got four people in my group KO'd (myself included). We contemplated on just wiping it, but instead we pushed on. Tank LB3'd as per usual and the healers gradually raises us. We still beat Byakko despite the huge DPS loss and we never saw Enrage. My static is also casual/mid-core, yet we still do Savage and Extremes because why not? It's fun and something to do. -
03-03-2018, 07:00 AMBahati
I can't say I'm paired that with many awful players in dungeons or raids. Let's keep in mind job boost is a thing and a new player can skirt by to 70 with storyline and dailies pretty easily.
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03-03-2018, 07:04 AMMoroMurasakiThe "if you dont like x about the general population you should only do things in a static" argument is a little dated at this point don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by RiyahArp
Don't like zero-DPS healers? Only use a static.
Don't like tanks that pull big? Only use a static.
Don't like wiping over and over to content of trivial difficulty? Well clearly the problem is not the people subjecting you to their poor play - it's you expecting them to be considerate of others! Use a static.
What's next? Don't like Miqo'te? Use a static.
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03-03-2018, 07:23 AMSenorPattyAaaaand this is going straight into my possible future use of siggys.Quote:
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03-03-2018, 07:30 AMMoroMurasaki<3Quote:
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03-03-2018, 07:32 AMCallinonI can't help it...Quote:
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Don't like explaining really obvious things to people on a forum? Only use a static.
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03-03-2018, 07:37 AMMoroMurasakiI am both amused and annoyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callinon
Thank you? I think...