Just a thought on Elezen.

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Originally Posted by Xiomara

I like being a unicorn/special snowflake. Never met another fem duskwight elezen that looked even close to what I look like.

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I think most Duskwight go for the look I have, namely the lighter skin.

I do see darker skin from time to time, but more often on males and less often on females (and on my server I'm not sure if it's meant seriously, as it usually is accompanied by makeup options that can at best be called garish).

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Originally Posted by DreadRabbit

Au Ra, on the other hand, have a different problem: we have 4, very different facial structures to pick from that all look great. However you can't change the horns that come with each face. And the horns are a very prominent part of the character's design. And so when creating one, you basically have to decide: pick your favorite horns? Or pick your favorite face?

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Yeeeees, this is the problem I had with my Au Ra! I like the horns your character in your avatar has the best, but the face was the deal breaker for me.

...And, just wanna throw this out there, I haven't seen any Au Ra who looks super close to what my character looks like yet. Even when my character was a Miqo'te I very rarely saw other miqos who looked too similar to her, even though I would see a lot of them with a similar face but the coloring would always be WAY off from hers and the eyes would almost always be different than the ones I'd pick.

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Originally Posted by Berethos

I think most Duskwight go for the look I have, namely the lighter skin.

I do see darker skin from time to time, but more often on males and less often on females (and on my server I'm not sure if it's meant seriously, as it usually is accompanied by makeup options that can at best be called garish).

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Which honestly suprises me, in my mind you pick Duskwight because you want to go for the darker skin, it just seems like the logical choice, but they work just fine with the light skin tone, like you have. I'm personally a fan of darker skin, hence my Duskwight, and even before I fanta'd my cat had a much darker skin than most.

Dark skin options are great. I went for a grey-blue but I have a very dark retainer and love the way she looks, and for some reason all of my FC's female Miqo'te went for colourful skin options which make them all stand out a lot more.

Male elezen are fine. Ladies, however, suffer from shoulders too broad and heads too small combined with some comparatively poor animation work. Fix those, add a few more face models (all races need more parts to play with in the creator, let's be honest) and they'd fit right in.

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Originally Posted by Berethos

I think most Duskwight go for the look I have, namely the lighter skin.

I do see darker skin from time to time, but more often on males and less often on females (and on my server I'm not sure if it's meant seriously, as it usually is accompanied by makeup options that can at best be called garish).

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Ahhh, I know what you guys mean! I made my duskwight elezen (who was my main dragoon in HW even though I have all the jobs on roe) as dark as I could: black hair, darkest skin option, black eyes and cute black freckles. Don't think I'll ever see a copy of him. I'd show a picture, but I'm at work. If interested, you can just write "Etoileaux" in lodestone. As I recall there's no other Etoileauxes on any servers.

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Originally Posted by Emstidor

This is really the root of the problem, and the reason a lot of people are gonna disagree with your thread. "Elves" don't exist in this game. The Elezen obviously share some similar characteristics that we associate with traditional elves, but they are not, and have never been intended to occupy that particular niche. They are Elezen, and that includes the exaggerated necks, the spindly arms and yes, the head:body ratio that they currently have.

What you and several other people are doing is you're trying to mold a unique race into a preconceived picture of what you think they look should like, but its no less wrong than if I was to argue that Roegadyn should be bright green and have fangs like Orcs just because they both happen to be large.

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Quoting because this is the most accurate post in this thread.

Everyone complaining is doing so because they want stereotypical elves. But elezen are not stereotypical elves, and I hope they never will be.

(also, I'm duskwight - partly for the negligable MND bonus, partly because i enjoy being vaguely grey, lol.)

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Originally Posted by Emstidor

They are Elezen, and that includes the exaggerated necks, the spindly arms and yes, the head:body ratio that they currently have.

What you and several other people are doing is you're trying to mold a unique race into a preconceived picture of what you think they look should like, but its no less wrong than if I was to argue that Roegadyn should be bright green and have fangs like Orcs just because they both happen to be large.

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Really? Because the concept art looks more proportioned to me.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...840ea05077.jpg

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Originally Posted by seida

Quoting because this is the most accurate post in this thread.

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I think the male Elezen in this game are fine. DAMN fine, in fact! XD I think male Elezen are the most attractive dudes in the game. But the females do look weird to me in a way the males just don't. Other people have made pretty good points as to what bugs them about the Fem Elezen.

I also had no idea that female Elezen only got to pick from two actual face types and that the other two only had makeup added. I think that's a pretty legit complaint.

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Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude

Really? Because the concept art looks more proportioned to me.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...840ea05077.jpg

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Continued (sorry can't edit on phone :( )

Where did the broad shoulders go on the concept? Why was the swift elegant slender stylized vibe the concept art gives not entirely translated to the 3d models? I just want to understand. I always see the concept and think of what could've been and get sad. Even the arms look slimmer. Hyur and miqote are translated so well, even Roegadyn women. What happened to Elezen females? No one's asking to make them short, just asking to stylize/refine them like they have them in their final concepts. :)