How many people have multiple houses?

I have been trying for a long time now and do not even have 1 :(
Still the system is largely to blame because they have not went with instanced housing like other mmos
When the new district opens up in SB i am taking a day as holiday damnit, lol

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Originally Posted by Reinha

The game mechanics already work to prevent it. Personal plot ownership cannot be transferred and plots cannot be traded. The sellers ask for a ransom and then release the plot after which it's the buyer's job to buy it from the game. The only way to stop people from circumventing the restrictions is by removing face-to-face gil trading entirely.

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As Kosmos said they could tack on additional time after it's relinquished. In addition they could make it so you can't purchase additional homes for a certain period of time after relinquishing an estate, unless moving servers. Once the moving system is in place you shouldn't need to relinquish the home first anyway unless you're doing something you shouldn't be like selling it. You'd have to lock down FCs as well so you can't be given ownership of an FC with a house if you already own an fc with a house, nor could you purchase a house for a fc if you're the leader of an fc with a house. There's then the choice Square would have to make to widdle down houses people already have forcefully, or simply apply the new rules and let it put a stop to further issue.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

So what happens if a character (who owns a home) tries to purchase another one?

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If a character owns a personal plot and tries to buy another plot as a personal plot the system won't let them. In future, you'll have the option to move if the character already has a plot.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

That is absolutely disgusting. There is zero reason anyone should need or be able to buy any more than one personal house per server. And SE really needs to put limits on that, soon. These guys are just an example, there are others that buy up property en masse like that to gain a monopoly on house sales, something that fills me with dread thinking about the second Shirogane opens up.
In their case I see it as less 'we want to live in quiet' and more 'look how much more money we have than you, lolol'. It's pretty clear to me they're only doing it to anger people, and they definitely succeeded.

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Why is it always the players fault. Not enough houses (players fault), to big a que (players fault), players buy the houses (players fault), player doesn't have enough inventory (players fault), servers crash (players fault), not enough instances (players fault). Does the dev team ever make any choices that isn't the players fault?

I strongly dislike the current system. I have used other words in the past. But they have broken no rules. They did not cheat and gil is not hard to earn. Two to three hours a day doing simple timer stuff and ventures makes me a million a week. I would be sacred to see how much someone dedicated could earn weekly. They leveled within the rules and bought them. Again I do not like that they own the houses. If you support a system, I believe you must live with the consequences.

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Originally Posted by Scenic

When did you buy your house? This is promising information but depending on how long ago it was it may no longer be true. From my understanding you are basically waiting on plots to be abandon and with large amount of people coming back to the game for the expansion the turnover is going to be a lot lower. Also you will have a lot more people looking to buy so houses wont stay up for long.

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It would have been late last year so things could have changed with the new release bringing in more players. I also have no doubt that getting a house is near impossible on the high population servers. I guess the real question will be if the returning players that purchase housing are really long term or will they be gone once they've maxed everything out? I won't pretend to know the answer nor even attempt an opinion on it. I haven't taken a walk around for a while so maybe I will do that to see what things look like now that SB is out.

I'm not a house hoarder so have no issues with SE putting restrictions on the number of houses someone owns. I would be concerned if they don't allow some type of overlap for players that want to move to a new house. Let's say something like a 30 day window to decide which one you'll keep and which one you will release. I will say that even though it is the cause of all the problems I do like the neighborhood nature of the current housing areas. I understand this in not supportable for the large number of people that would like houses but hope they could be grandfathered in under any new housing scheme.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

As Kosmos said they could tack on additional time after it's relinquished. In addition they could make it so you can't purchase additional homes for a certain period of time after relinquishing an estate, unless moving servers.

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There should be some mechanism to be able to relocate on the same server. Something like you own a house and are allowed to buy one more. Then within 30 days you have to pick one to keep and release the other or the system will return one back to the pool automatically.

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

I think the worst part of that tumblr post, for me anyways, was the attitude with which those two approached the few neighbors they had - like any house not decorated by them and in their private theme was an eye-sore that they needed to grab and re-build so that everyone on their server could come in and take tours of the pretty ward... or some such. I just don't understand that mentality.

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It's the sort of thing that might make people make their homes intentionally an actual eyesore (Dodo nests, cannons pointed at their snobbish neighbors, garish colors). Given that it's pixels and there isn't an homeowners association to complain to, it would make for a unpunishable gesture toward their snobbish neighbors.


I completely agree with the sentiment that it should be 1 personal house/account/server. It just makes sense if square is going to have this as a limited resource. Square should do something to correct this system that's been broken now since mid ARR.


(unrelated to anything you said in your post - general statement not directed at you)
As far as the homeowners themselves....yeah, the system let them do it, but that doesn't mean they should. People giving them grief? Tough. They chose to do something that any person would have found inadvisable and the court of public opinion is going to judge them.

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Originally Posted by Claviusnex

There should be some mechanism to be able to relocate on the same server. Something like you own a house and are allowed to buy one more. Then within 30 days you have to pick one to keep and release the other or the system will return one back to the pool automatically.

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That's coming with Shirogane's opening, whenever that may be. It's more immediate of course, you choose to move to the new plot, the old one is up for grabs.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Why should someone have to spend every hour they play camping a crystal because some selfish person wants to RP with a limited commodity? Selfish, rude, greedy and inconsiderate. People like you are part of the problem.

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If someone wants a house, they will do it. I have sat at the crystal on the hour every hour for weeks on end, to get a friend a house. So, yeah. You can sit there, be lazy and complain that something isn't placed directly into your lap? OR, OR, you can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Personally, when I want something, I go and I get it. I use all of my houses, I like all of my houses, and I'm glad SE let me have these houses. Some people like to collect minions, mounts, whatever, I'm happy with what I have.

It's a feature in the game that is purely optional, and I really enjoy it. Why shouldn't I get to enjoy it, because someone doesn't FEEL like putting in bare minimal effort?

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

That's coming with Shirogane's opening, whenever that may be. It's more immediate of course, you choose to move to the new plot, the old one is up for grabs.

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I was assuming you were talking under normal circumstances which is the I brought up the need to allow overlapping house ownership. While my thought is it would be rare you might not like the new location or it might take a few days to move items from your old place to new. I don't like the idea of an forced immediate move/relinquish on the same server.

I guess this is housing hello from ragnarok ... 30

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...&house=&order=

:D

I have one personal house small and one medium house for my FC mates and I, aiming for a Mansion once Shirogane drops.

The speculation some people say that "housing wards that are coming will be a solution for those suffering" no - no they won't. I know that the two top d-bags on Excalibur are already poising themselves to buy new plots and have their level 50 alts all buy back the old plots that get released after the transfer. What sucks is that unless Square Enix decides to actually act on a solution to prevent these people from doing it, a lot of us are going to get royally screwed by this. Really need to push S-E to either find a solution before 4.1, presumably when the new wards drop, or hold back from releasing them until something is done to rectify this and to prevent housing going to more undeserving, greedy hoarders.