Scout, Caster, Pet. Which class would you want next?

Oh good, ranged DD and Debuff..

It's good to know Yoshida plans to ruin Red Mage as well..

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Oh good, ranged DD and Debuff..

It's good to know Yoshida plans to ruin Red Mage as well..

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Who said anything about a red mage?

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Edit: And the poll isn't even going to be fair. The first poll showed players are largely melee players, so when it does go to poll... Thank you all you meleers that have 5 classes to level versus 2 disciples of magic.

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I respect your comment for being someone who likes to only play mage classes, but I'm a player who only likes to play pet classes. So really it's melee lovers have 5 classes to level, magic lovers have 2, support role players will have 2 eventually (whm and bard) but pet class lovers have 0...

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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Two is not enough. Versus the other disciples which already have 5 classes, which are all very different. Where as, until the job system comes out, Thaumaturge and Conjurer are practically the same, minus heals.

Edit: And the poll isn't even going to be fair. The first poll showed players are largely melee players, so when it does go to poll... Thank you all you meleers that have 5 classes to level versus 2 disciples of magic.

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Again I refer you to the part where Yoshida said he wants to add more mage classes before more war classes because that's what the game needs:

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If you look at the game right now, the balance is more toward physical attack classes with very few caster classes. Looking at MMOs, we realize that this is not a good balance to have, so the first thing that we're going to be doing after introducing the job system is probably introduce another caster class because that's what the game needs. We realize that currently, the game is lacking in a lot of crowd control type of spells, and we need these to make battles more strategic. To introduce these types of spells, we think one obvious way is to introduce a new caster class that's able to handle them.

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Source: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/10...naoki-yoshida/

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

Who said anything about a red mage?

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Yoshida is pulling all his classes from Early Final Fantasies. Red Mage is the Debuffing Mage, nobody can dispute that. They also used to be versed in Cross-bows. But they have always been better with Swords.

It really is a shame that he has this obsession with reviving Archaic Mage Loadouts. The glaring deficiencies are going to be painful to watch in action. An MMO where you can't survive without every class.. That should be fun.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Red Mage is the Debuffing Mage, nobody can dispute that. They also used to be versed in Cross-bows. But they have alwas been better with Swords.

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I quite honestly don't recall any of that being Red Mage staple in any Final Fantasy other than XI. They weren't enfeeblers before it and I sure as hell don't recall cross-bows. Not even in XI.

I would love to see either a whip or crossbow Red Mage. Don't get me wrong, personally I have been dying for a Theif, but, I would be happy to wait for a thief to see debuffs come back.

As for a pet class, I think battle needs to be more balanced before a pet shows up.

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Originally Posted by Kio

I respect your comment for being someone who likes to only play mage classes, but I'm a player who only likes to play pet classes. So really it's melee lovers have 5 classes to level, magic lovers have 2, support role players will have 2 eventually (whm and bard) but pet class lovers have 0...

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It will most likely be beastmaster. The last time summoner was mentioned they didn't know how they were going to handle it as. Versus Beastmaster which can be pure melee and be less stressful to worry about. Beastmaster, unless they call it something else, will most likely fall under Disciple of War, just like scout, so it will probably make it 6 DoW, 2 DoM.

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Again I refer you to the part where Yoshida said he wants to add more mage classes before more war classes because that's what the game needs:

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Then why bother saying there's going to be a poll and we choose 1?

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Originally Posted by LytheJade

I would love to see either a whip or crossbow Red Mage. Don't get me wrong, personally I have been dying for a Theif, but, I would be happy to wait for a thief to see debuffs come back.

As for a pet class, I think battle needs to be more balanced before a pet shows up.

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Whip would more likely be BLU (Quistis) or Beastmaster.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Yoshida is pulling all his classes from Early Final Fantasies. Red Mage is the Debuffing Mage, nobody can dispute that. They also used to be versed in Cross-bows. But they have always been better with Swords.

It really is a shame that he has this obsession with reviving Archaic Mage Loadouts. The glaring deficiencies are going to be painful to watch in action. An MMO where you can't survive without every class.. That should be fun.

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red mage has never used a cross bow.

red mage has never really beeen THE debuff class. That only ever happened in XI. Red Mages are known for their mix of white and black magic