get RID of the extra buttons to press when engaging please

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

A lot of gamepad users need to remember they are playing on a PC.

Not everyone has money for a gamepad.
PC's default controls are KEYBOARD and MOUSE, and ALL of them have both.
This is NOT a PS3 exclusive game.
This game came out for PC FIRST. (it should have had PC controls 1st, THEN adapted to PS3)
Some people dont LIKE gamepads (hence why I play PC games..)

I can go on if you want, but the simple fact is that this is currently a PC only MMO. So why do I have to buy EXTRA things to make it work? I understand the intent of compatibility for PS3, but you can save that argument for WHEN it gets released for PS3. Until then, it is NOT a PS3 title and the UI SHOULD be PC optimized.

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Strawmanning a bit. I never said anything about you needing to purchase a gamepad. What I was saying is that the developers can't just focus on one control scheme or the other, they need to develop for both. It's an aggravation for players, but it's just something that has to be endured when you're working with multiple platforms.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Strawmanning a bit. I never said anything about you needing to purchase a gamepad. What I was saying is that the developers can't just focus on one control scheme or the other, they need to develop for both. It's an aggravation for players, but it's just something that has to be endured when you're working with multiple platforms.

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Everyone understands that they need to develop for both platforms. What we are scratching our heads about is why in the world did they not have a decent keyboard interface ready to go from the start after 5+ years of development, especially considering that they planned to launch on PC first.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Everyone understands that they need to develop for both platforms. What we are scratching our heads about is why in the world did they not have a decent keyboard interface ready to go from the start after 5+ years of development, especially considering that they planned to launch on PC first.

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Thank you for saying what I had a hard time saying.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

A lot of gamepad users need to remember they are playing on a PC.

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And a lot of "PC players" need to realize it's a new generation and a lot of people like Gamepad controls for their PC games as well, so it's actually good that a game is built with both in mind.

We already know optimizations will happen.

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And a lot of "PC players" need to realize it's a new generation and a lot of people like Gamepad controls for their PC games as well, so it's actually good that a game is built with both in mind.

We already know optimizations will happen.

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Let me quote this AGAIN since you didn't read it:

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Everyone understands that they need to develop for both platforms. What we are scratching our heads about is why in the world did they not have a decent keyboard interface ready to go from the start after 5+ years of development, especially considering that they planned to launch on PC first.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

And a lot of "PC players" need to realize it's a new generation and a lot of people like Gamepad controls for their PC games as well, so it's actually good that a game is built with both in mind.

We already know optimizations will happen.

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Not even consoles use gamepads anymore (every console is moving out of gamepads and into motion controls), which "new generation" are you referring to exactly? Even PCs are trying to move in the direction of motion controls (See: Razer Hydra).

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Checked with the development team about whether a dedicated attack button can be added. While we can't promise that a dedicated attack button will show up in the future, a smoother way to initiate auto-attack using keyboard controls is being developed.

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Bayohne
there is clearly some issue where auto attack is not working as it should many are complaining of having to use secondary abilites to start auto attack such as heavy swing/light strike or feather foot etc to actually start auto attacking. Also there is an issue once auto attack starts that the action bar is not highleted(glowing) and we are not able to swtich between action bars using the up and down arrow key on the key board. We have to disengage and totally start over to get this function to work or use the mouse and click the arrow for the action bar to switch. Ive heard complaints of this from both the English and Japanese forums please get a response on this issue.

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Originally Posted by Hikozaemon

Bayohne
there is clearly some issue where auto attack is not working as it should many are complaining of having to use secondary abilites to start auto attack such as heavy swing/light strike or feather foot etc to actually start auto attacking.

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The source of the issue is simply the clunkiness of the UI and how the directional arrows/dpad are used for two very important things: object targeting, and skill selection.

When you are in "object targeting mode" (dpad lets you select object, players, NPC, etc) and are in active mode, you will not auto attack anything.

When you are in "skill selection mode" (dpad lets you select your skills and abilities) and are in active mode, you will auto attack whatever you are targeting.

It's very, very awkward.


One solution would be to have the directional arrows only select skills, and the tab, shift+tab only cycles through targets.


For keyboard, you could make it so that dpad only selects skills, and the analog stick push only cycles through targets.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

The source of the issue is simply the clunkiness of the UI and how the directional arrows/dpad are used for two very important things: object targeting, and skill selection.

When you are in "object targeting mode" (dpad lets you select object, players, NPC, etc) and are in active mode, you will not auto attack anything.

When you are in "skill selection mode" (dpad lets you select your skills and abilities) and are in active mode, you will auto attack whatever you are targeting.

It's very, very awkward.


One solution would be to have the directional arrows only select skills, and the tab, shift+tab only cycles through targets.


For keyboard, you could make it so that dpad only selects skills, and the analog stick push only cycles through targets.

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I USE A KEYBOARD THIS IS A PC GAME(lol caps lock) what do u mean DPad i found this game to play worse w/ a dpad long ago. The UI is overly complex when it doesnt need to be period. we dont need 4-8 different targeting modes for a keyboard; the FF11 way worked wonders and was never an issue and this should have the same UI for targeting but it doesnt...........

One issue I've noticed when I was soloing a battle leve yesterday is

After killing the first leve mob, I pressed TAB to target the second one in the same mob group. It happened that a mob from another leve mob group stood in the middle, as I tabbed through it it was targeted first ad hence the AUTO ATTACK started, which wasn't intended. Then I had two groups of mobs attacking me at the same time >_>' which I couldn't handle, so I ran away. Even if I could, I wouldn't kill them at the same time as the other group would yield no SP.

Sometimes there is a need to press ENTER to initiate auto attack, sometimes there isn't. Maybe only the first mob we need to press ENTER?