ATMA ATMA ATMA

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Originally Posted by Insidious

This most certainly does show who is good and who is bad. A good player will put in the time to farm for the atmas while a bad player will come on here complaining about random being random.

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It's a great effort for me to farm Atma. First I strip naked to save on repairs, then I have this macro that does two low level skills that generate low enough enmity that I can spam them without worrying that I'll end up tanking the fate boss so I run to a boss fate, push the macro, tab out and do something else or cook dinner or something, wait for the /echo ding at the end and then tab back into the game to run to another FATE. (There is no exaggeration in that whatsoever, by the way. I actually do this for Atma. Since I'm not really paying attention I miss many FATEs, but at least I'm not wasting my time) Such skill. Wow. When I finally get enough Atma for my weapon, it will be a great indication of my speakers being audible from my kitchen.

On the other hand, I have yet to see any of the serious raiders on my server with an Atma weapon (all Levi, Soldiery, or t5).

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

I think what's more going on is the people who trivialize the complaints by saying "I got mine, therefore it is fine how it is" are the ones being called out.

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I think it's less calling out and more being baited. Most arguments against Atma are the same arguments about anything difficult or time consuming in MMOs. Certainly Atma is a pretty unimaginative grind though are you guys planning to whip yourselves about it all the way until it gets the already planned nerf? Speaking of wastes of time ...

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Originally Posted by eagledorf

Such skill. Wow.

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You can tell he's funny because he used funny meme.

I figured I would share I got them pretty quick 2 days grinding the ones that took me the longest were.

outer and upper la noscea the rest were easy. I don't think its based on luck at all.

I had another idea also I was gonna try when I get my dragoon relic its shine.

aquarius which is the second month of my character, I got maiden on first fate I did, I am gonna try to follow chart and do fish, ram,bull the order of the chart starting from my stone.

http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/s...te/zodiac2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Worm

I think it's less calling out and more being baited. Most arguments against Atma are the same arguments about anything difficult or time consuming in MMOs. Certainly Atma is a pretty unimaginative grind though are you guys planning to whip yourselves about it all the way until it gets the already planned nerf? Speaking of wastes of time ...

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I read different posts than you I guess. Common arguments from what I see are:
I don't like FATEs (valid feedback)
I don't like RNG (valid feedback)
I don't have time to do this (not valid feedback)

People misconstrue arguments #1 and #2 as "gimme" arguments when the only "gimme" argument is #3. You are one of those misconstruing arguments, sadly to say.