Is 1.18 the final straw?

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Originally Posted by Bled

yet it still dose not detract from it being a poor FF title in my eyes, that's 6 other FF's id rather play..

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Collective opinion > little ol' you.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Collective opinion > little ol' you.

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you = collective opinion.. i think not good sir.

1. i stated in my opinion.

2. any "gaming source" FF Top list marks FF 12 near the mid point.

3. since you missed it the first time IMO/ what I have seen, not stating for the masses.

Those weren't sales numbers, they were vote numbers. FFX sold more sure because it was the first FF for the "next gen console" at the time. FFXII was probably a more complete game, I'd say FFX had the better story though.

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Originally Posted by Bled

I don't know about you but i have heard nothing about a Final Fantasy XV, keep in mind the two new FF's are FF XIII-2 and FF XIII Versus.

There seems to be a pretty consistent correlation between old school FF player and the newer FF player's when it comes to the quality of FF games.

What i have heard:

Old School: FF6, FF7, and FF10 being best; FF12, FF13 very poor.

New School: FF12 and FF13 are done right; FF7 and FF10 are immortalized as best but are actually poorly done.

Personally being a old school FF fan and growing up on FFIV, id say FF XII and FF XIII are absolute gaming diarrhea.

EDIT: none of these above opinions are backed by actual statistics of known facts this is just from my experiences.

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I grew up with FFVII, it was the first FF released in the UK and I'm the biggest Sephy fanboy ever. :o I believe VII and VIII were very well done with the former being the better of the two, then the series took a dive with IX and X. Then along comes XII. I finished XII before X and I bought them both on release day, despite there being a five year gap between them. When I can't even be bothered to finish a game in a reasonable time there's something wrong.

I don't even compare the spinoffs (Tactics was awesome however), sequels (X-2 looked so awful I didn't purchase it) or online games with the rest so XV will be the next title I'll use for comparison. Sure it hasn't been announced but we all know it will come with about 99.9% certainty.

i dont play ff14 right now. playing aion 2.5 but i will prabably come back for 1.18 and see if its good or not.

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Originally Posted by Bled

you = collective opinion.. i think not good sir.

1. i stated in my opinion.

2. any "gaming source" FF Top list mark FF 12 near the mid point.

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Mid point between FF games...its still higher than most other RPGs as is.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Mid point between FF games...its still higher than most other RPGs as is.

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Im a fan of FF for sure, but i don't believe them to be exponentially better then other RPG series. However i will agree with you it is better than a majority of RPG's out there.

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Originally Posted by Bled

you = collective opinion.. i think not good sir.

1. i stated in my opinion.

2. any "gaming source" FF Top list marks FF 12 near the mid point.

3. since you missed it the first time IMO/ what I have seen, not stating for the masses.

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Collective opinion = the masses. We quoted sources for the praise that FFXII garnered and you say I'm not the collective opinion.

Okay, done with you then.

XII would've been much better had they let the director stay. The first half was awesome.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Collective opinion = the masses. We quoted sources for the praise that FFXII garnered and you say I'm not the collective opinion.

Okay, done with you then.

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You apparently don't understand what in my opinion means and the fact that i stated i had no factual basses for my claims. you think a quote from one gaming source is the masses... cute.