Desynthesis Endgame Guide

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Originally Posted by FinaSel

Currently stuck at 200 Blacksmith Desynth.
I honestly don't know what I should desynth to get from 200 to say, 250?

What method should I use??

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PVP PLD swords. I do GLD, BSM, and Leather with wolf marks among others.

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Originally Posted by Jeckyl_Tesla

Kinda stuck on what to level in Desynth, in ARR I got Cul to 100, but that was because I was doing a lot of fishing.

I didn't do anythign in HW, and so here I am now. Kinda unsure about the profitability ot the point of Desynthing tbh.

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There is gil in desynthing, even CUL But you have to be a serious fisher to use CUL. There is fair gil still in the 2.x swimsuit fish and minions.

Thank you for this guide. I have a query - I recently returned to the game after playing 1.0 and 2.0. I've unlocked both Heavensward and the latest expansion, but I'm finding that I can only desynthesise items that belong to the original game, nothing from either expansion. [The item descriptions say they are desynthesisable, and they come up in the desynthesis dialogue box, but a big red message of "This item cannot be desynthesized" is shown at the item screen (for everything not in the original game)].

Have I missed a second set of quests to unlock the Heavensward items?

That is simply because you're desynth level is too low.

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Originally Posted by illukar

Thank you for this guide. I have a query - I recently returned to the game after playing 1.0 and 2.0. I've unlocked both Heavensward and the latest expansion, but I'm finding that I can only desynthesise items that belong to the original game, nothing from either expansion. [The item descriptions say they are desynthesisable, and they come up in the desynthesis dialogue box, but a big red message of "This item cannot be desynthesized" is shown at the item screen (for everything not in the original game)].

Have I missed a second set of quests to unlock the Heavensward items?

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It's because you're desynth level is too low

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Originally Posted by illukar

Thank you for this guide. I have a query - I recently returned to the game after playing 1.0 and 2.0. I've unlocked both Heavensward and the latest expansion, but I'm finding that I can only desynthesise items that belong to the original game, nothing from either expansion. [The item descriptions say they are desynthesisable, and they come up in the desynthesis dialogue box, but a big red message of "This item cannot be desynthesized" is shown at the item screen (for everything not in the original game)].

Have I missed a second set of quests to unlock the Heavensward items?

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It's because your desynth level is too low

Thanks all - I'll keep levelling up - I was at 70 (culinarian) and couldn't understand why I wasn't able to do anything with the fish I was catching.

http://xivdb.com is a good reference, that lists the ilvl of a specific fish.

Would be nice if fish lvl and/or ilvl of seafood items was listed in the item description, in the actual game.

Just as a general note as I'm working on updating the OP - Looking into desynthable items in the gap between ~170 and ~240, I'm basically finding that there are only the two obvious options for non-CUL desynth. For ~170 to ~200, PvP i180 gear. For ~190 to ~220, PvP i205 gear. For ~220 to ~240, Poetics i230 gear. Then you can do the i255 stuff from SB, and use vendor/MB bought gear from there until you hit the SB endgame and have only dungeon drops to finish your way to the cap. There really aren't many/any other options, unless you are spamming HW dungeons for gear, which is extremely unreliable.

I still need more datapoints to get the new formula up, but it seems they extended the bonus desynth chance again, resulting in r230 gear having a success change of 80% at dSkill 230. That really helps with the gap. Also, you can desynth items that have an 80-100% chance and still get 0.7-1.0 dSkill with that gear, if you're in the right dSkill range. So, at least you get a level up almost every time you desynth, which helps close the gap.

More later.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Babies are complicated. Toddlers, almost as much. I no longer have the free time I once did. I do plan to update the guide now that I'm playing FFXIV again (even if only at night), but it's far from a simple update, and I do not have a handle on the current economy. If you (or anyone else) are offering to help, that would be great. If not, it'll be updated slowly over time.

There is also not currently a strong reason to do desynths like there used to be in 2.x. You can break even on some items, but there are no longer any new desynth-only items, either glamour items like the old swimsuits and fish minion or crafting mats like the FC/BC/MC demis. Desynth has been seriously neglected even as they have made significant changes to ease leveling it. That makes it hard to be motivated to do a guide - I can, and will, do a leveling guide, but I don't currently have an answer to "why should I level desynth" beyond "because then you'll have higher level desynth."

I will be updating the LTW stuff first, from my own experiences. It's the only desynth I'm currently working on, personally. I don't know if I'll update the 1-100 leveling guides - things have changed, but I don't think enough to warrant a change to those. If someone wants to help with the leveling guides for other classes, please let me know.

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That's fine. I think the 1-100 stuff is probably fine. Probably the only thing worth adding is that you can use Allied Seals to buy the old ilvl 100 stuff for very little, which makes it very good for leveling desynth, even relatively early. I think I started around 80. The accessories are like 25 seals and come in at least GSM, WVR, and LTW flavors, so even if you fail a bunch, it hardly matters. Poetics and Centurio Seals are also generally helpful from like 160-260. It's not going to be as fast as some people probably want, but I think it's the most frugal way, while also still being effective.

We'll see what they do with desynth, but at the moment I think the best reason to level desynth is in anticipation of future additions. After all, weren't FC/MC IIIs added in HW? We may see another addition in SB, even if desynth overall plays a smaller role than it used to. I know CUL can desynth some fish for combat VIs, which I guess is probably worth it to some people, though I haven't seen anything exciting in the few pieces of 300 gear I've desynthed with GSM.

We'll see what they do with desynth, but at the moment I think the best reason to level desynth is in anticipation of future additions. After all, weren't FC/MC IIIs added in HW? We may see another addition in SB, even if desynth overall plays a smaller role than it used to. I know CUL can desynth some fish for combat VIs, which I guess is probably worth it to some people, though I haven't seen anything exciting in the few pieces of 300 gear I've desynthed with GSM.[/QUOTE]

Fieldcraft/Battlecraft Demimaterua III's and Mastercraft Demimaterua were introduced in the last few patches of ARR way before HW was released. Just an FYI :)