Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

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Originally Posted by Aishaa

I would love for instead of people claiming things, for them to say specific names of the premades and give what exploits they are using, otherwise it all just sounds like baseless complaints. Are their videos of these "hacks" being used also would love a source. A lot of the good dark knights stream in discords and or on twitch so please if you could find a clip of someone auto evertiding or toggling on something that would be very helpful.

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Seriously, we are in an age where people knows no shame.
A PvP grifer has gut to post in General Forum pretends his victims do not exist and claim he is innocent.
If you post evidence, the posts get removed for naming and shaming.
How are we going to post name here?

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Originally Posted by Aishaa

I would love for instead of people claiming things, for them to say specific names of the premades and give what exploits they are using, otherwise it all just sounds like baseless complaints. Are their videos of these "hacks" being used also would love a source. A lot of the good dark knights stream in discords and or on twitch so please if you could find a clip of someone auto evertiding or toggling on something that would be very helpful.

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Immediately after this incident I stopped by a well-known maid's stream to see if she could catch the ~!@#$, but unfortunately she was on Crystal. As others have noted, SE tends to punish those who out cheats publicly more vigorously than the cheats themselves, hence the only recourse is the report function.

FWIW I doubt any of the good DRKs leading premades are cheating. When you're smashing the par win-rate by the degree they do, there's simply no point.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Immediately after this incident I stopped by a well-known maid's stream to see if she could catch the ~!@#$, but unfortunately she was on Crystal. As others have noted, SE tends to punish those who out cheats publicly more vigorously than the cheats themselves, hence the only recourse is the report function.

FWIW I doubt any of the good DRKs leading premades are cheating. When you're smashing the par win-rate by the degree they do, there's simply no point.

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If you do have evidence Mawlzy, you can post the vid/pics in a revival ticket so at least the community can be made aware.

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Originally Posted by OliviaLugria

If you do have evidence Mawlzy, you can post the vid/pics in a revival ticket so at least the community can be made aware.

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I don't stream, honey, hence don't record my matches. Plus I have left Revival for unrelated reasons.

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Originally Posted by Aidorouge

"Naming and shaming" is against the forum rules apparently. Hell, even that one time I forgot to blot out names when showing the scoreboard (and I wasn't even accusing anybody of cheating, and one of the people in the 8-stack premade *admitted* it in the chat window) was crossing the line and I had to redo the image with everyone else's name wiped off.

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And even when somebody once brought receipts with their allegations, suddenly new, throw-away accounts spammed the thread with obscenities repeatedly until they got the intended outcome and the thread was nuked out of orbit faster than I've seen any drama-filled thread locked or deleted.

So asking for "proof" here is basically a catch-22, and I don't think reddit fares much better.

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Originally Posted by Cidel

And even when somebody once brought receipts with their allegations, suddenly new, throw-away accounts spammed the thread with obscenities repeatedly until they got the intended outcome and the thread was nuked out of orbit faster than I've seen any drama-filled thread locked or deleted.

So asking for "proof" here is basically a catch-22, and I don't think reddit fares much better.

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Part of the problem arises from a daft application of confidentiality. When a player gets reported for any transgression, the GMs will not tell the accused who reported them. That is obviously very sensible. However, this then gets extended to the forums, when the player reporting the transgressor is perfectly happy to waive their confidentiality in order to share the receipts, and is prevented from doing so through post removal (or worse). Thus we are left with people claiming that the "lack of evidence" of cheating is proof there is none, whereas it's simply an artefact of misapplied confidentiality rules.

So, it is better to not deal with the problem but complain about it on the forums? These people will never get banned then, you do not have to post names on the forums, create a discord make an investigation team full of the people who are accusing others of cheating and put out a video, post, something. Especially if doing a "little research" is all that is needed to expose these people.

Someone in linkshell said they're getting rid of Frontlines? I hope not, it has some problems but it's still pretty fun. I wish they'd fix it rather than just getting rid of it.

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Originally Posted by EmilySummerstar

Someone in linkshell said they're getting rid of Frontlines? I hope not, it has some problems but it's still pretty fun. I wish they'd fix it rather than just getting rid of it.

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They're not getting rid of Frontlines, but they are reportedly making big changes in 7.1.

That's good to hear. Some changes would be refreshing. I used to hate Frontlines too but then I figured how to just play zone. Usually on the flanks.