There Is No Dancer (yet)

I wonder how they would incorporate a cloth weapon for us as a dancer? The weapon choice for dancer interests me since Nin already have daggers. What do you guys think?

Well seeing that one can cut with paper, cloth itself would suffice maybe? With fast movements and such
Not sure, though dancer has always had some sort of weapon

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

I wonder how they would incorporate a cloth weapon for us as a dancer? The weapon choice for dancer interests me since Non already have daggers. What do you guys think?

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I don't think they'd really use cloth. That's way too far-fetched.
I could see them having 2-handed daggers/swords with a different combat style. It didn't stop CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM for having similar weapons, or GLA/PLD and DRK even though it's not fair to compare the two since GLA/PLD uses a sword and a shield which the game considers as 2 in 1, since they both drop at the same time and the token costs are split between them these days.

There's also chakrams for DNC.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

2-handed daggers

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That's Ninja, i don't see why they would make 2 Jobs using the same weapons.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

That's Ninja, i don't see why they would make 2 Jobs using the same weapons.

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That's why I included 2-handed swords or 2-handed daggers with a different combat style. Also I've already said it didn't stop CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM to have similar weapons. Cane, Rod, in the end they're both sticks.

There's also SMN/SCH using the same type of weapon but then again they branch from the same class.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

That's why I included 2-handed swords or 2-handed daggers with a different combat style. Also I've already said it didn't stop CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM to have similar weapons. Cane, Rod, in the end they're both sticks.

There's also SMN/SCH using the same type of weapon but then again they branch from the same class.

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I think the chakrams would be cool. I just looked up them up. If they did the hidden knife, the could make gauntlet a unique design.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Also I've already said it didn't stop CNJ/WHM and THM/BLM to have similar weapons. Cane, Rod, in the end they're both sticks.

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And? Gladiators used to have daggers and it was removed from them to "make space" for the Ninja.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

And? Gladiators used to have daggers and it was removed from them to "make space" for the Ninja.

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Fond memories of my baby Gladiator and her purple people poker.

Fans. I want dancer to dual wield fans. That would be soooo freakin coool.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Fans. I want dancer to dual wield fans. That would be soooo freakin coool.

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speaking of which isnt there a boss in xelphato[ that uses dual fans
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Originally Posted by ADVSS

speaking of which isnt there a boss in xelphato[ that uses dual fans
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Only one fan and that was just the WHM garuda weapon made giant.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Fans. I want dancer to dual wield fans. That would be soooo freakin coool.

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YESSSSSS! I would love that. I could imagine their movement being similar to Chang'e's from smite, but with fans (mainly since I have no experience with any FF dancers :x I just love chang'e's graceful attacks)

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

Today you forgot MNK never had slash attacks, and never used cloth to attack.

So what are you saying» She's neither MNK or DNC? ermahgerd

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http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Fl...%27s_Jamadhars

One of many questionably slashy punchers for the monk.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Fl...%27s_Jamadhars

One of many questionably slashy punchers for the monk.

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Just because it looks like it can slash doesn't mean it does, it's called blunt damage, not slash damage.

PLD, WAR and NIN do slash damage.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

Just because it looks like it can slash doesn't mean it does, it's called blunt damage, not slash damage.

PLD, WAR and NIN do slash damage.

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I'll say that about the sleeve too then :P Otherwise we'll have to accept

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ai_Apaec

is meant for bludgeoning, not slashing or stabbing as its design would suggest.

EDIT: That was worded really weird and I can't untangle that word salad. The main point is, there are several Monk weapons that look like they should be used for cutting stabbing, and slashing. The sleeve wouldn't be out of the purview of the monks as we've seen them so far.

Dancer should use fans - either Chinese or Spanish (Maybe Japanese) - as weapons and nothing else. Any developer that creates a Dancer class in an RPG that doesn't use fans as a weapon has created a blasphemy against the concept of a RPG dancer and should be punished by being forced to watch the 1995 film "Flamenco" 15 times in a row without breaks.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

TIL Monks have slash attacks:

http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...626fc8bc73.jpg
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...1ac4e3efa5.jpg

K.

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She must be a Dancer because of that single fling of her garment? While you ignore the other 99% of her attacks which are punches and kicks that she uses to kung fu the shit out of the WoL Monk. All because "Monks don't use slashing attacks" While Dancers are known to have an arsenal of punches and kicks? K.

And someone posted that picture of a Dancer from Final Fantasy Tactics. Did you look at her abilities? All dances not a single punch or kick or any hint of martial arts. I'm glad you guys are picking and choosing your favorite pieces while leaving everything else out to sculpt your theory.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

She must be a Dancer because of that single fling of her garment? While you ignore the other 99% of her attacks which are punches and kicks that she uses to kung fu the shit out of the WoL Monk. All because "Monks don't use slashing attacks" While Dancers are known to have an arsenal of punches and kicks? K.

And someone posted that picture of a Dancer from Final Fantasy Tactics. Did you look at her abilities? All dances not a single punch or kick or any hint of martial arts. I'm glad you guys are picking and choosing your favorite pieces while leaving everything else out to sculpt your theory.

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I didn't say she was a dancer, i just mentioned a monk doesn't do those attacks, so salty. o.O

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

I didn't say she was a dancer, i just mentioned a monk doesn't do those attacks, so salty. o.O

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Lol how am I being salty? Because I shutdown that argument? :P

And you know the purpose of the topic and most points made in this thread are about speculation of Lady in Red being a Dancer right?

That attack doesn't even look that different from the slashing lines you get from Demolish. Cutscenes have a lot of artistic freedom, so you have to take all their attacks with a grain of salt (in terms of matching in-game abilities).

Because Demolish has a slashing lines animation like that, I don't think that ability is very telling. It could be a new monk ability or just a movement that looked good for the trailer.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

She must be a Dancer because of that single fling of her garment?

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I'm not saying she is a dancer but the only class in all FF games that used CLOTH as a weapon was Dancer. FFT Dancers to be more exact: "A warrior who dances across the battlefield, garbed in colorful raiments".


I'd really like her to be a new class, but no one can say for sure.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

And? Gladiators used to have daggers and it was removed from them to "make space" for the Ninja.

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One dagger, not two.
1.0 worked a bit differently since what weapon you have determines what skills you can use also. THM and CNJ can still use shields you know.

Having played through the Palace of the Dead as a Monk and seen what all the Monk can do in the upper levels, I'm going to have to start leaning to the side of the Lady in Red (LoRe if we abbreviate it) simply being another Monk in the story after all.

However, I am still holding out hope that SE will, someday, make the Dancer a playable job. The speculation was fun, but now I'm eager to hear more about the Red Mage ♥.

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Originally Posted by Kikoten

Having played through the Palace of the Dead as a Monk and seen what all the Monk can do in the upper levels, I'm going to have to start leaning to the side of the Lady in Red (LoRe if we abbreviate it) simply being another Monk in the story after all.

However, I am still holding out hope that SE will, someday, make the Dancer a playable job. The speculation was fun, but now I'm eager to hear more about the Red Mage ♥.

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Preach on! o7

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

I'm not saying she is a dancer but the only class in all FF games that used CLOTH as a weapon was Dancer. FFT Dancers to be more exact

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It's still only one move lost in a flurry of punches (Which DNC hardly do, apart from a very poor skill in FFXI) and kicks (Which DNC never did).

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Originally Posted by Kikoten

I'm eager to hear more about the Red Mage ♥.

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Really wondering how long the devs are going to drag out the tease for the jobs. We got "Confirmation" of Red Mage at the NA Fan Fest. Will we see a full reveal and details at the European? More teasing? Will others be teased in similarly blatant ways? Will we have to wait all the way till Japan's Fan Fest for concrete details?

I only really started following the minute details of the game's development just before Heavensward's launch, so I'm totally unaware how they laid things out back then. Anyone with that experience want to weigh in?

Watched the video again and it's more than clear that we seeing a Dancer with Martial Arts moves. Specially her intro.

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Originally Posted by ZhaneX

Really wondering how long the devs are going to drag out the tease for the jobs. We got "Confirmation" of Red Mage at the NA Fan Fest. Will we see a full reveal and details at the European? More teasing? Will others be teased in similarly blatant ways? Will we have to wait all the way till Japan's Fan Fest for concrete details?

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If they do it like HW, JP Fanfest will confirm RDM and tease another job, and EU fanfest will confirm the second job. (And maybe a third)

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Originally Posted by Mature

Watched the video again and it's totally my opinionmore than clear that we seeing a Dancer with Martial Arts moves. Specially her intro.

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Fixed that for you. If it's a speculation thread, you shouldn't ever use something like "more than clear".

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

If they do it like HW, JP Fanfest will confirm RDM and tease another job, and EU fanfest will confirm the second job. (And maybe a third)

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Oh, Japan is before Europe? Hadn't double checked the dates and for whatever reason I thought Japan was last, and EU was next.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

If they do it like HW, JP Fanfest will confirm RDM and tease another job, and EU fanfest will confirm the second job. (And maybe a third)

Fixed that for you. If it's a speculation thread, you shouldn't ever use something like "more than clear".

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From my POV it is clear. We are seeing a Dancer with Martial Art moves . Thank you

Let's take a moment to look at your comments, first you say this

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Originally Posted by Lufir

And you know the purpose of the topic and most points made in this thread are about speculation of Lady in Red being a Dancer right?

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And then you post things like this which implies there's nothing to speculate:

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Originally Posted by Lufir

Because I shutdown that argument? :P

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Originally Posted by Lufir

So numerous people observe that the Lady in Red matches the Monk's abilities towards the end of the video. And instead of this being more and more evidence of Monk, she now is able to mimic other jobs because that is what Dancer does instead of you know, dance?

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Seriously looool.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

Lol how am I being salty? Because I shutdown that argument? :P

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About this, how exactly did you shut down my argument when you didn't provide any evidence that Monks have slash attacks?

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Originally Posted by Mature

From my POV it is clear. We are seeing a Dancer with Martial Art moves . Thank you

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Well then, objectively...for me..., it's a MNK improved by a CGI filter :p

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Originally Posted by Mature

Watched the video again and it's more than clear that we seeing a Dancer with Martial Arts moves. Specially her intro.

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This girl is as much as a "dancer" (i.e. the well known FF Job "dancer", which utilizes Dances for different status effects, also likely with their reccurring signature attack ability "Sword Dance/Blade Dance/Saber Dance/Quiver Sword") as any given gold Saucer NPC is a "gambler" (i.e. the well known FF job "gambler", which battle abilities consist of random effects that are extremely powerful when successful, but detrimental if unsuccessful and a recurring signature attack ability called "Slots").

http://66.media.tumblr.com/f1002ad24...shl9c6_540.gif
Some of her moves do indeed, HINT a dancer.

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Originally Posted by FinalWolf

A good theory I saw was the people of ala mihgo created the dancing style to hide their martial arts training under the garlean rule.

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Now that's a very interesting story I could get behind.
But for the most part, she does look like a Monk with a tinge of dancer perhaps as a hint.
I might rule out this lady is not Yda, why would they suddenly mention Yda having a sister out of the blue?
This could be her sister being a Monk AND something else. It could very well be a mix, just like Bard being supportive DPS thing.
But that would rule out Dancer being a healer, and a support melee DPS which would probably upset a lot of people
since most people want either RDM/SAM as a DPS. So we're back at fighting slots there. So it's kinda hard to pick and choose right now.
I hope she's NOT a dancer only because I want Dancer to be a healer, she ain't healing no one with that one punch down below.
Unless DNC is a tank, SAM is a DPS, and RDM a healer, which I pray it not...but who knows? The only thing we're missing in question is a healer job.
Samurai and Red Mage have already been hinted (mostly RDM), we should get more hints in the other 2 Fan Fests.
We can't infer much on like a 2 minute video. :/

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

http://66.media.tumblr.com/f1002ad24...shl9c6_540.gif
Some of her moves do indeed, HINT a dancer.

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To me, it looks like a CGI version of Fists Of Wind...with a different color. But since WoL's Fists of Fire also have an abnormal color, that's not a big deal.

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Originally Posted by Fevelle

I'm not saying she is a dancer but the only class in all FF games that used CLOTH as a weapon was Dancer. FFT Dancers to be more exact: "A warrior who dances across the battlefield, garbed in colorful raiments".


I'd really like her to be a new class, but no one can say for sure.

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Yeah, even if she is a dancer and dancers are a type of martial artist in FF14, that is no guarantee that Dancer will be added to the game as a playable class right now. We have numerous examples of classes that NPC's could be before we could play them.

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Unless DNC is a tank, SAM is a DPS, and RDM a healer, which I pray it not...but who knows? The only thing we're missing in question is a healer job.

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I am guessing that Sam will be a tank class this time around, for no other reason than it would almost single-handedly solve the lack of tanks and queue time problems the game is suffering from right now. That kind of silver bullet solution would be very appealing to the devs.

If DNC came out and was a tank, i'd main it instantly.

What if,

What if, this is a precursor of a sub job system like in FFXI and she is actually a DNC/MNK.

People hyped about Dancer and here i am drooling for a Gunblade Job.

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Anyway, let's consider this for a moment, the Girl in the Trailer is Garlean.

Garleans seem to use a mix of Jobs instead of just one.

Let's take a look at Livia:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Livia_sas_Junius

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Livia is shown to be highly proficient at hand-to-hand combat, her weapon of choice being a pair of gunbaghnakhs. She incorporates both rapid and powerful punches along with swift kicks and gunshots into her fighting style. She is also shown to be proficient at piloting magitek armor.

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Mix of Two Jobs, so it might be that the Girl in the Trailer is a Garlean and a mix of Monk and Dancer? It would explain the Monk skills used along with the Cloth Slashes.