Just stop playing healer

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

You people need to chill
normal gameplay still needs healers, normal players still need healers

Not all players are equal, not all of them can preform like top raid players

Healers are still needed, you are not some victim.

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In which case, you can choose to be the healer.

I'm in the middle. I understand and agree with some of the points being made about the state of healing.

I agree that they're under no more obligation to play healer than any other player. If they don't enjoy healing anymore, then they should stop playing healer. Completely, not just piece meal. Playing healer in any content at all would become a +1 to healer in SE's count.

I don't agree that this strike will accomplish what they want.

I will still be healing as I usually do because I enjoy healing and most of those I play with wouldn't be able to complete content with a healer. I know the Xeno's of the game aren't representative of the majority of the player base let alone all of it. Even the controversial dungeon run was a mess - imagine how much smoother it would have gone if they had included in a healer in the party.

But please don't go down the path of current healers owe it to the player base to keep healing so everyone else can have fun. Just no. If some don't want to heal anymore, they shouldn't. If other players find a lack of healers inconvenient, then they should step up for a change and do the healing. If you say "but I don't enjoy healing" then you should understand why they don't want to heal anymore. They've stopped enjoying it and have decided to play other jobs for a change.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

You posted several replies in #HealerStrike thread. Surely you would know the context, but then you said this



It's hard not to question your intention when you described the issue in a very disingenuous way. In addition, you defended the guy, who made #DPSstrike thread, with your dismissive post when he got called out with the evidence of his vitrolic replies.
I, too, don't think your intention is pure

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What reason would I have? What would I gain from that?

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

You posted several replies in #HealerStrike thread. Surely you would know the context, but then you said this



It's hard not to question your intention when you described the issue in a very disingenuous way. In addition, you defended the guy, who made #DPSstrike thread, with your dismissive post when he got called out with the evidence of his vitrolic replies.
I, too, don't think your intention is pure

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Thanks to the magic of finding still cached versions, I was able to read the thread again.
I didn't mean any vitriol by that.

I'm not your enemy.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

The Healer strike thread was made after the post complaining about people clearing the first dungeon in the first expansion with a unrestricted party.
Without context it's... petty, at best.

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And the context is that these issues have plagued the game for the past 2 expansions, and now we're faced with a third of the same and just don't have the desire to eat the same, bland meal with a smile again.

You know the strike is having some effect- at least in terms of exposure- when so many people are getting their underwear in a twist.
Making a thread basically telling healers to not play healer as a response to... a thread about healers banding together to not play healer is something.
I shouldn't post something this useless, but I just cannot comprehend what's going on in the heads of some people.
Here's to 500 pages on the strike page soon. Keep voicing your until CBU3 notices how rubbish healer gameplay and encounter design is.

The thing that gets me is generally at a glance healers have a low skill ceiling (thats not meant to say healers are all bad players) I know many who have trouble with rotations and tank-ciety that feel ok running healer in content; sure they often under perform damage wise; but usually their clutch healing and rescues means DPS can easily pick up the slack. As such I worry that what people are pushing for is to make healers as stressful as a DPS feels to do a proper rotation and I am not sure if thats a good thing.

I worry because if you increase the skill ceiling of everything then this will happen. The skilled players will get bored because they are rolling the content (much of which is already pretty easy with a bit of practice) and so they will demand harder and harder encounters; or the encounters will all be designed with optimal play in mind and essentially block out sup-optimal players resulting in mid-range players bowing out entirely. I am curious what the statistics on players clearing the savage tier is for example by role @ level 90.

I don't have a great answer but the challenge is it needs to be balanced but also economical as SE likely does not want to make a lot of content to cater to the hardcore encounter crowd - thus why Ultimates are so sparse and often lack any actual story relevance.

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Originally Posted by Ramiee

THE FACT ITS POSSIBLE TO DO A ULTIMATE RAID THE SAME PATCH IT CAME OUT WITHOUT HEALERS IS A FUNDEMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THE TRINTY BALANCE.

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seethe harder

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Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse

I worry because if you increase the skill ceiling of everything then this will happen. The skilled players will get bored because they are rolling the content (much of which is already pretty easy with a bit of practice) and so they will demand harder and harder encounters

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It's important there's enough room to optimize that you can engage with your kit and the mechanics to clear faster or there's nowhere to go after you clear, it becomes dull almost immediately because you're doing the same thing but again.

Healers make this extra bad because the optimized point is 90% literally one spell, there's no mental difficulty nor physical execution difficulty beyond resolving mechs.

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Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse

Its not a strike its a tantrum.

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I don't consider it a tantrum or looking for attention. There are valid concerns. I get bored sometimes myself. I'm just disappointed to see the lack of commitment. I've healed for 10 years now and I'm still enjoying the role. I've had to adjust to a lot over the years but I'm still satisified by the experience. So I'll be playing healer, not to spite anyone, but because it's still fun for me.

However, if I were as unhappy as many are, I wouldn't touch the role. I wouldn't level it. I wouldn't heal for friends. I would politely explain to them that the role no longer was something I was interested in and I would hope they would respect my wishes. If my goal is to not contribute to SE's numbers for healers, I would do everything possible to not do that. I'd have to sacrifice some things. If there's a neat reward for all 100s, then I would miss out on that. I wouldn't get all the relics like I usually do. I wouldn't have a class to use certain gear on. If my friends only had room for a healer role, I may not get to join them. That would all suck but if I'm that unhappy, then I would commit. So many are saying they will only avoid DF and even in this thread you can see people planning to level their healers in alternative ways. Those things completely undermine any sort of movement that's trying to spread.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Yes, it's a game. So why are people striking in the first place? This isn't some unthetical employer affecting employee livelihoods.

If the participants want to call it a strike, then they should be willing to take actions that are actually going to get SE's attention. Not milquetoast declarations that they're leaving the healer role because they're so upset with it but having a million exceptions that make the action entirely pointless.

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Lmao you guys are actually hilarious. Do us a favor and put your whining in the actual thread. Leaving the healer role IS a way of getting attention. Streamers talking about it is attention. Getting 400 likes and 500 pages is attention. Your post right here is attention. But keep talking to yourself about how a strike is simultaneously outrageous and yet not enough.

Were you in the benchmark threads telling them they're not doing enough? If I am not mistaken that movement came from forums. Was it a tantrum? Perhaps. It still got results. So permit me to find feedback going on ITT to be totally irrelevant. Well, not totally because after all it is clearly self soothing.