Does the average XIV player know how to play their jobs?

If you’re posting on this forum, or even silent readers, you’re probably “above average player” already.

The average player, and actually the vast majority, don’t even know we, or the forum, even exists here. They don’t do external research, nor are they compelled to. When they fail, they get frustrated and probably quit and do something else.

There’s no concept of maximizing rotation. They know how to heal or to tank and to get out of red shiny markers, but definitely no concept why certain skills cannot be used in certain way.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

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My paint skills are elementary. However the average is green/blue IMO

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I like your paint skills but I think you’re severely underestimating the grey and reds here. Grey and reds are probably as big as the entire length of your scale.

I saw a chart for another MMO before that 60% of players play less than 1.5 hours per day.

I find it more funny that "Knows the role extremely well and most mechanics" is associated with not doing savage while "Knows the role [...] but will make mistakes on mechanics" is associated with doing savage.

And red is probably by far the most common. The average player I encounter in DF has a general idea about their role and some mechanics but that's it.

It doesn't take much to know non-ex mechanics, as game is pretty good at using consistent effects and warning markers to represetn them. As for knowing the job, its just straight up unnecessary to even try to be optimal with it sub-EX difficulty. It feels good to try and it is fun for most DPS jobs, its really just not required by the content, so players who don't dip their toes too much beyond sub-EX content just don't need to be able to push their job to the limit to succeed. So yeah, green and red on the chart kinda end up with a very blurry line between them, I'd say, to the point where separating the two at all is nigh pointless. Also, blue and yellow combined would be of length even lower than current grey relative to overall length of chart, IMO.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

You are speaking from your vast personal experience of that role, I gather?

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Who is this nobody coming for me out of nowhere acting like I'm dead weight in content?

It's kinda hard to mess up the basic 1,2,3 rotation buuuut you'd be surprised.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

But... I don't have a color on there... I mess around not giving a shit making ppl wonder how I didn't get hit by some things. To which I reply. "I'm a Cat. If I fits I sits" >.>

I may also sometimes chase the healer for a hug while playing a tank job while an AoE tankbuster marker is on me... :P

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I'm a man of my word so just for you I've made an update.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I'm a man of my word so just for you I've made an update.

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I still look at this and compare it to max level roulettes and think more people fall into the red zone than green.

They kinda know what's going on, But don't understand their Jobs well enough to utilize all the role actions and cooldowns correctly.
Majority of casual players i've spoken too in and outside of my FC don't have Second Wind, Bloodbath and Addle/feint on their bars at all.

I would take a good 2/3rds of that green bar and turn it red.

Its noticeably different across Datacenters of course, i feel on JP servers the majority of players were well above average (but that is just a cultural thing, they have a bare competency that is expected of every player, and a personal mindset to not let other people down by playing sloppy).

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Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE

I feel on JP servers the majority of players were well above average (but that is just a cultural thing).

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I think quite the opposite. JP average player base is way low the western average.
I mean, we received a lot of “quality of gameplay” changes making the game easier and easier and easier.
Plus we never had a proper re work on the formula within the Hardcore Endgame.
There are a lot of requests in the NA/EU/OCE forum still in every LL there is no mention about anything.
Nothing like “oh, yeah we know endgame sucks, we are trying to figure out a solution where you can gear faster and we can still milk your money”.
Or “Yeah also we know the housing system sucks, we are trying to develop a new system”…basically these are the major topic in the forum (i don’t count the SE enjoyer topics).
In the last three years nothing was mentioned about what the wester comunity is feeling on the actual state of the game.
They throw content that nobody asked (Isle sanctuary e.g.) and pretend that’s what the whole player base want.
They do rework that nobody asked on jobs and contents.

At the end of the day I just think that devs doesn’t listen what western forum has to said, maybe they compare our request if they matches theirs own but mostly all the changes are made for the crying Japan casual player base.
So this is why FF has a low average skilled player base, imho.

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Originally Posted by Jokerz_93

I think quite the opposite. JP average player base is way low the western average.
I mean, we received a lot of “quality of gameplay” changes making the game easier and easier and easier.
Plus we never had a proper re work on the formula within the Hardcore Endgame.
There are a lot of requests in the NA/EU/OCE forum still in every LL there is no mention about anything.
Nothing like “oh, yeah we know endgame sucks, we are trying to figure out a solution where you can gear faster and we can still milk your money”.
Or “Yeah also we know the housing system sucks, we are trying to develop a new system”…basically these are the major topic in the forum (i don’t count the SE enjoyer topics).
In the last three years nothing was mentioned about what the wester comunity is feeling on the actual state of the game.
They throw content that nobody asked (Isle sanctuary e.g.) and pretend that’s what the whole player base want.
They do rework that nobody asked on jobs and contents.

At the end of the day I just think that devs doesn’t listen what western forum has to said, maybe they compare our request if they matches theirs own but mostly all the changes are made for the crying Japan casual player base.
So this is why FF has a low average skilled player base, imho.

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I've played on 3 different DC's now, and JP has by far the most competent casual playerbase.

Could just be due to population size, but playing on NA its apparent that there is a large population of people that don't really care about how bad they play the game, or how it affects the gameplay of others.