We lost 70% of our player base half a year in

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Originally Posted by Yushees

Servers still has small queues, no need steam charts for validation.

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The queues exist due to dated server infrastructure. Players are handled in batches if they want to teleport to a different zone or get into the game itself. It's why there's a risk of people being locked out of a zone if there's a hunt train going on during prime time hours.

Still seeing new sprouts. FF14 definitely got new players.

The game is becoming stale for me though.

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Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir

TL : DR, FF14 ain't dying. It's experiencing the exact. same. trend. It and the vast majority of games in this industry do 6 months after a release - so many have finished what they wanted to do in FF14 for now, and have moved on to other games.

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I never said it was.

I pointed out only that its play is a bit spikier than is typical for similar MMOs. Having a long-term base less than a third its expansion release and less than two-thirds its at-patch-drop values is a sharper rise and fall than most face.

And the question I therefore asked was whether that design maximizes XIV's benefits. Is that spikiness the superior way to build the game, as compared to, say, having a bit more content longevity not dependent on extrinsic rewards and/or completionism?

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The simple reality is that developers can never create content faster than consumers can consume it, without resorting to extremely predatory grinds like Korean MMOs.

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This seems either mildly disingenuous or a failure of imagination. Content can last without being dependent upon or creating grinds.

Look at games like Hades, Dead Cells, Slay the Spire; their longevity is primarily based on their ability to automatically scale and reiterate from a base model in order to retain challenge and better continue to offer novelty. Whereas content here is pretty one-and-done outside of mind-numbing grinds because this game's only reiterability is the sorry excuse we see in PotD and HoH.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The queues exist due to dated server infrastructure. Players are handled in batches if they want to teleport to a different zone or get into the game itself. It's why there's a risk of people being locked out of a zone if there's a hunt train going on during prime time hours.

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Meanwhile on JP server, there's no queue at all on morning :)

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Meanwhile on JP server, there's no queue at all on morning :)

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I get a queue when I log in during JP primetime, and I'm not even on one of the more populous servers in the region. JP primetime is my mornings during the week, Saturday morning through mid-afternoon, with Sunday being ok, if about half to three-quarters as many as Saturday. The only times I don't get queues are my weekday evenings which is their weekday morning.

There are an abnormal obsession in this forum with the whole thing about "this game is dying" that I do not understand at all. It is like those who run around in panic convinced that the Apocalypse is about to happen and because it won't happen either hide or look for a stupid excuse.

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Originally Posted by kpxmanifesto

Yeah, Asmongold will pump up those numbers by quite a bit. If Asmongold can't save FFXIV then we are truly in a dire situation.

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If FFXIV needs a Streamer to "save" it, it doesn't really deserve to be saved.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

He's a bit predictable.

https://i.gyazo.com/f472852aa240ac2c...1861742fd3.png

I won't need to look in his lodestone to see a single level 90 healer and a FC with 1 person in it either.

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This person seems to either waste money on buying new accounts on a game they seem to love to hate

or

This person is a very disgruntled SQE employee and can give themselves games licences either freely or extremely cheaply.

Either that or there are sources for super dirt cheap game licences that are being sold with one or more high level characters included ( a similar black-market ebay like game licence plagues GTA online)

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Originally Posted by WhiteWitch

yea because who wants to do the same stuff every expansion? people come for story and then leave. even the story was just ok this time around.
new savages? who cares, even though all the boss are different they use the same moves, left cleave arena, look away, half party stacks..

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So it's a MMO?
We've gotten and are getting new content too.
I dunno what boss you're even talking about with '' look away '', you're really oversimplifying the mechanics too.

Have you even cleared it?
Because it doesn't sound like it.

I am not having any issues either finding people to do content and everywhere I go is full of people so clearly there's a lot of people who aren't just doing the MSQ and then leave.

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Originally Posted by Xlantaa

There are an abnormal obsession in this forum with the whole thing about "this game is dying" that I do not understand at all. It is like those who run around in panic convinced that the Apocalypse is about to happen and because it won't happen either hide or look for a stupid excuse.

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There's an abnormal obsession on this forum with complaining about every single thing and even totally imagined problems with the game.

In fairness to this topic tho, this is a thing people say about every MMO since basically day 1.
People have been saying that the game is dying since ARR and the game has only grown in players since ARR.
People don't care they just keep repeating it.