"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

Why is it YPYT is always "petty" or "toxic" behavior, but going ahead and pulling ahead of the tank without discussing it with the party first isn't? The tank may be pulling slowly for a reason. Ask before you take it upon yourself to "help" by bringing extra mobs. Otherwise it's very easy to waste more time on a wipe than you'd have saved with an extra pack of mobs.

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Of course them going ahead is toxic, but them being toxic does not give you permission to be toxic as well. What do you get out of it? Do you think you're teaching them a lesson by letting people die?

If it's the healer pulling ahead, are you going to let them die and cause the group to wipe? I'm sure the other 2 people in the group would find that really funny. And if it's a DPS that's pulling, now the healer is stressing out having to heal them because you refuse to tank because someone else pulled.

You pull, you heal. Unless you are a tank

If you pull and die because Im still loading in to the next zone its on you for being impatient buddy.

Also if you pull something Im unaware of run to my AoE instead of standing across the hallway trying to kill it on your own. Im not gonna inconvenience the rest of the party by running back and forth constantly.

As a tank i dont care who pulls, I just want the duty done.

Only exeption is if someone is in a cutscene

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Originally Posted by Gullis

As a tank i dont care who pulls, I just want the duty done.

Only exeption is if someone is in a cutscene

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Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

I suggest a different job role then.

It is all down to lack of communication isn’t it.

It is the job for the tank to tank and the tank know how many he/she can handle.

If anyone feel the pull is too small, the first thing should ask the tank and heal if they can do a bigger pull.

There are no norm, it is a party decision.

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

I suggest a different job role then.

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What are the follower and leader roles? I don't think those are in Final Fantasy 14...

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

I suggest a different job role then.

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Me tank! Me big leader! Me lead!! Me no follow! Me no sheep! You listen! Me leader!

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

I suggest a different job role then.

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Leadership comes through competence, buddy. Not which color your role has.

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Originally Posted by Espon

Of course them going ahead is toxic, but them being toxic does not give you permission to be toxic as well. What do you get out of it? Do you think you're teaching them a lesson by letting people die?

If it's the healer pulling ahead, are you going to let them die and cause the group to wipe? I'm sure the other 2 people in the group would find that really funny. And if it's a DPS that's pulling, now the healer is stressing out having to heal them because you refuse to tank because someone else pulled.

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And why should the tank/healer tolerate such behavior when the DPS roles do such a stunt?

They already have the least responsibility in a group and seemingly are allowed to get away with a lot of things, be it getting hit by avoidable attacks, not doing their AoE rotation in groups of 3+ or just do crappy DPS in general.
But sure, blame it on the tank. Same when you reach enrage in fights where apparently "A different tank would have made the difference under the same circumstances."

But never hold the DPS responsible.