Can we get normal manly males ?

lol as a woman myself I don’t care for beards either (especially Santa Claus type ) but I’m not against them adding them in. I will say, that even though my male characters would be considered “androgynous” or “pretty”, I still struggle to find outfits for the type of look I’m going for. The hairstyle choices were even more ridiculous of a time for me. I like anime hair but these aren’t the “right” anime style. But thank god for the pvp hairstyle my main be rockin. My alt here, wearing make it rain hair, isn’t bad but it definitely isn’t my all time hair style my main would wear. Either way, I just stick to one hairstyle on my male characters anyway…. Not much choice lol

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Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus

We need manly men- manly Manderville men. Shadowbringers?

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What you mean to say is: We need more Godbert.

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

I lol’d at the “irl female players” part. Look, I’m all for people having options because they like certain things, but the more manly appearance stuff like facial hair and more muscles is, IMO, a guy obsession. Irl, as a woman, I hate beards. I don’t know any woman who is like omg hot beard guy. Most guys look better without them, beards scratch faces when you get kissed, beards get food in them, not attractive. I also think the obsession with muscles is definitely a guy thing. That’s completely fine, but I think it’s funny guys think most women like these things.

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uhm... excuse me, did it mention anything about beards? i was talking about hairstyles and general customization options for males xD even if i‘d mention beards, it‘s a matter of personal taste, nothing more or less and everyone has the right to give suggestions. i’ve just witnessed people being strongly opposed to it. i’ve made the experience that people shut down any suggestion, for what ever reason à la „stop crying and play another game if you don’t like it or just play female and you won‘t have that problem“ -which were mostly guys playing female characters. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i mentioned irl girls because they were always open for more customization options for males, even though they mostly don‘t play the opposite gender. some friends of me overreacted in joy when they saw male viera, even though they won’t play one. didn’t expierence the same with guys playing the opposite gender. and again i’m not trying to generalize, since most people playing either the same or the opposite gender are open for more customization options across all races and genders. it’s just my experiences i personally made so far with people that for what ever reason are strongly opposed to it! doesn‘t mean everyone reacts the same way.

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

I lol’d at the “irl female players” part. Look, I’m all for people having options because they like certain things, but the more manly appearance stuff like facial hair and more muscles is, IMO, a guy obsession. Irl, as a woman, I hate beards. I don’t know any woman who is like omg hot beard guy. Most guys look better without them, beards scratch faces when you get kissed, beards get food in them, not attractive. I also think the obsession with muscles is definitely a guy thing. That’s completely fine, but I think it’s funny guys think most women like these things.

I wanted to also mention that I agree healer sets can be feminine a lot of the time. The fending sets are definitely masculine or neutral though. I think I have about 5 options in about 80 levels worth of fending gear that’s actually feminine for my PLD. I think there is a gender bias going on with the healing/tanking roles. I saw the new WHM set and it does look like in the artwork that it may have ruffles in back. I don’t know if there will be a male version that’s different, but I definitely get why guy characters are upset by their lack of options.

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You don't know me then.

Beards are hot. Bigger the better. Needs to be well trimmed and shaped though, scraggly beards, unkempt beards, are a disgrace and make you look trashy

Facial hair is a very masculine marker. Just ask any woman over 30. Baby faced men make me feel dirty.

I chose Midlander due to not wanting an overly tall or thick character, they are more or less an average person, i like the fit of the armor on them, and don't feel like their masculinity is in any way in check, its all about how you glam and style your character, you can have a rugged lala if you want to even, but just play Roegadyn or Hrothgar if you want that stereotypical wow orc body.

Normal "Manly" males?

Whose "normal" ? Whose "Manly" ?

The West has a big problem with male physical stereotypes. To complain about a lack of Hyur-specific models that reflect those Western stereotypes in what is, essentially, a JRPG-based MMO, is humorous.

Ask for more facial hair options? No problem. Complain about the lack of "manly men" ... gods ... Here, have a look at some 'stout hearted men": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjqfvZVReM&t=125s

I find all the playable males - sans maaaybe lala xD - reasonably manly by physique and face, and in motion. It takes little more trying than with females to find cool masculine-like glamours, but it's not impossible. Even aesthesian's editing options, when chosen to fit the glamour can make or break your masculine look.
I do agree that facial hair option could be just more, beards are so cool :) (am rl female)
Post pictures please, of "normal manly males"? Dunno, I'd love to explore what "normal manly males" means to you random people on the mmo forum. It might be that my idea average manly guy is somehow kinda lacking, because I'm so irritatingly compliant(???).

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Originally Posted by Burmecia

I find all the playable males - sans maaaybe lala xD - reasonably manly by physique and face, and in motion. It takes little more trying than with females to find cool masculine-like glamours, but it's not impossible. Even aesthesian's editing options, when chosen to fit the glamour can make or break your masculine look.
I do agree that facial hair option could be just more, beards are so cool :) (am rl female)
Post pictures please, of "normal manly males"? Dunno, I'd love to explore what "normal manly males" means to you random people on the mmo forum. It might be that my idea average manly guy is somehow kinda lacking, because I'm so irritatingly compliant(???).

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I may not look like it, but I can grow some very hotblooded muttonchops and a mustache if I wanted to.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

I may not look like it, but I can grow some very hotblooded muttonchops and a mustache if I wanted to.

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Oh, I‘m sure you can!
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Originally Posted by Fukuro

Oh, I‘m sure you can!
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Just wait until I get off work lmao.
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