Seeing hate toward "refugees from other MMOs?"

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Originally Posted by Puremallace

Well this seems interesting. I guess the wave theory is correct. Blizzard sending out surveys randomly asking if you are going to leave for multiple other MMO's and they specifically list Endwalker.

https://twitter.com/Jedithtv/status/1406006774654812165

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As an ex-WoW vet, I'm absolutely tickled to see them showing blatant concern over this, not that I would ever go back at this point. At the same time I'm fairly certain that this will simply mean they'll try to cook up some BS content to release at the same time as Endwalker as they typically do to combat competition.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Because in the wake of that information, releasing a 10-boss raid, a mega-dungeon, new progression paths, further Covenant campaigns, new legendary effects, unifying/conveniencing systems for bonus difficulty dungeon runs to reduce conflicts/toxicity, PvE retuning, PvP retuning and reworks, and a new zone 9 days from now suddenly became a bad idea?

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Is it a good amount of content? Sure. It is also way late. Still bogged down by the terrible covenant system along with a myriad of other issues. Add Blizzards woefully terrible communication skills, and all that equals me not exactly jumping for joy about 9.1. The only positive thing i will say is at least it is not August like some had rumoured. Long enough to undoubtedly do another stupid six month promo though.

On topic: I don’t really consider myself a “WoW refugee” because i have played both games for years, but i will say i have not seen really any issues aside from social media
and places like YouTube.

What hate? people just play and help the other person usually from what I've seen even if they are from WoW.

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Originally Posted by shiroxkatsuya

On topic: I don’t really consider myself a “WoW refugee” because i have played both games for years, but i will say i have not seen really any issues aside from social media and places like YouTube.

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I'm in this boat. Current Long time WoW and FF14 fan. I use Both games to keep myself from super burnout. As a guild officer in my WoW guild I advocate playing another game in between patches wether it be 14, PSO2, ESO, etc.

This whole chapter of the WoW vs 14 fight might get your dishearten WoW player, but the whole community vs community might just scare away the more sensible FF14/WoW fan or new fans all together. Most WoW/FF14 players are ultra cool, I did a Blood Furnace with players with FF14 names and then had the privilege of meeting them inside of FF14 afterwards. It sucks that we have to be at "war" and not coming together as MMO players in general.

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

As an ex-WoW vet, I'm absolutely tickled to see them showing blatant concern over this, not that I would ever go back at this point. At the same time I'm fairly certain that this will simply mean they'll try to cook up some BS content to release at the same time as Endwalker as they typically do to combat competition.

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Probably diablo 4 beta, it's the only big thing they got going now to advertise.

I don't know about hating them... but I don't like that game being brought up every 5 minutes. I play this game, I don't play that one. We are both here playing this game, lets not talk about it.
Generally, I just ignore their attempts at talking about it and either just try to move the conversation to something else, or move on entirely. I love that they have found this game and are enjoying it, but I just simply do not care about their old game. >.<'

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Originally Posted by Puremallace

Well this seems interesting. I guess the wave theory is correct. Blizzard sending out surveys randomly asking if you are going to leave for multiple other MMO's and they specifically list Endwalker.

https://twitter.com/Jedithtv/status/1406006774654812165

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“When should we release 9.2”

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Originally Posted by van_arn

“When should we release 9.2”

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lol

Yeah, that's most likely the thought process behind the survey.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Because in the wake of that information, releasing a 10-boss raid, a mega-dungeon, new progression paths, further Covenant campaigns, new legendary effects, unifying/conveniencing systems for bonus difficulty dungeon runs to reduce conflicts/toxicity, PvE retuning, PvP retuning and reworks, and a new zone 9 days from now suddenly became a bad idea?

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Honestly, the only thing I'm interested in there is the raid.

IDGAF about the dungeon, or the legendary grind, or the new zone. I played all of it on PTR and wasn't impressed.

I'll be here on non raid days. Trying to finish my MSQ and leveling alt jobs.

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Originally Posted by Imora

Honestly, the only thing I'm interested in there is the raid.

IDGAF about the dungeon, or the legendary grind, or the new zone. I played all of it on PTR and wasn't impressed.

I'll be here on non raid days. Trying to finish my MSQ and leveling alt jobs.

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Nice. I mean, maybe having to double-sub to have a fresh, worthwhile, or otherwise enjoyable raid experience and fun downtime activities isn't ideal, but if you're finding your best way to milk each... awesome.

I'm not a huge fan of WoW raids, especially beyond 10-to-15-manning (M+ junkie, instead, because I like the increased individual responsibility and minutia involved there), but here's hoping Sanctum will have some cool fights.