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I can count on one hand the number of DR runs where more than a couple were using essences (2 full relics plus a handful of extra runs). As someone who always uses them, it is ultimately meaningless that I do so as my contribution is so low it does not effect the clear time in a meaningful way.

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Originally Posted by Goji1639

I honestly don't mind DR, it's the Bozja overworld that's terrible and I will not spend any extra time in. DR taking a bit longer doesn't bother me too much.

Either way, you're wrong. Farming enough essences could take hours, whereas me, as a single player, using essences won't have a significant impact on DR's duration at all; especially as a DPS class. It's faster for ME to not bother with essences if I don't have them; that's just reality.

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If only you could buy essences on the MB for pennies. :/

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Yoshi-P is right in the sense it makes $$$ to appeal to those people.
He and his team are wrong in the sense they are the ones who put us in this situation. XIV doesn't pushes players into learning to do the basic. It pats them in the head instead. And the more they "dumb" it down, the more the "casual toxicitiy" will spread.

I swear ever since the Alexander incident they didn't just take a step back with punishing players. They jumped a 100 miles back and decided to never step forward.

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Agreed completely. This effort to avoid toxicity by dumbing everything down and cushioning everything is leading to a toxic environment all on its own. Don't criticize, players might leave; I'm sure ForteNightshade still has that quote of Yoshi P saying it's his hope more skilled players will happily carry less skilled players somewhere.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

If only you could buy essences on the MB for pennies. :/

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I'm not exactly sitting on a huge stockpile of gil, and when I checked the MB a while ago they weren't exactly cheap by my standard. If it literally is pennies now then fair enough, I'll pick some up.

If it puts even a dent in my gil, however, I'll pass.

Just stay in duty finder DR where no one really cares who uses essences and what not and do 50 minute runs for all we care. Leave our speedrun party finder DR alone.

aaaaah bare minimum adventurer

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Originally Posted by Goji1639

So, if I farm essences that means EVERYONE will use them and I'll save half an hour?

No, I'll farm them and it won't change a thing about what everyone else is doing.

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Actually it has changed what everyone else is doing. Speed run PF groups with dps essences have become a thing. Which means players with your mindset are discouraging the few who were carrying you from grouping with you anymore.

Players with your mindset only shoot themselves in the foot.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Actually it has changed what everyone else is doing. Speed run PF groups with dps essences have become a thing. Which means players with your mindset are discouraging the few who were carrying you from grouping with you anymore.

Players with your mindset only shoot themselves in the foot.

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So, a few DPS essence PF groups pop up and you think that's actually a good reason for me to waste potential hours farming fragments? There's A LOT of people doing Bozja right now; unless you're seeing 100's of these PF groups at any given time, people aren't doing it in significant enough numbers to make any difference.

Players with my mindset are ONLY sparing themselves time and inconvenience. It's called reading the situation and being pragmatic. Me farming essences isn't going to make a real difference in any of MY 15 runs.

If you want to farm essences to contribute to some kind of "greater good" for this content then god bless, but I don't care enough about this content to dedicate hours of my time to a fruitless gesture.

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Originally Posted by Vortuna

Just stay in duty finder DR where no one really cares who uses essences and what not and do 50 minute runs for all we care. Leave our speedrun party finder DR alone.

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Sounds good.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Actually it has changed what everyone else is doing. Speed run PF groups with dps essences have become a thing. Which means players with your mindset are discouraging the few who were carrying you from grouping with you anymore.

Players with your mindset only shoot themselves in the foot.

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Be careful your lack of patience and ADHD is showing. MMO's who does speedruns in MMO's? What do you get out of speedrunning it's not like you are getting paid nor getting anything out of it correct? Isn't the game supposed to be fun not treated as a job these days?

It's people that want others to use essences every waking minute are the ones who belittle and berate other players that are the toxic ones. I even have screenshots of conversations in party chat just because their ADHD has to have them finish by a certain time. If these players are the ones who only care about stats then why not play WoW or some other game where that is only thing cared about. I remember a video where a youtuber criticized about certain things about FF14 and it's community only for them to quit the game because they didn't like what he had to say. This is one of those conversations. As soon as you don't like how other's play, meet the standards or talk about the content that isn't 100% great you attack them and make excuses on why everyone should play that way. Not everyone will play that way but it doesn't give the right to mock them for not doing what you and some others do.

I never ask for carries and I make sure to do every mechanic in DR as good as possible. Yet I and other's get attacked because we don't use certain things. Just because it adds a little more time like whoopie do it took a little time. You in a hurry or something?

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Be careful your lack of patience and ADHD is showing. MMO's who does speedruns in MMO's? What do you get out of speedrunning it's not like you are getting paid nor getting anything out of it correct? Isn't the game supposed to be fun not treated as a job these days?

It's people that want others to use essences every waking minute are the ones who belittle and berate other players that are the toxic ones. I even have screenshots of conversations in party chat just because their ADHD has to have them finish by a certain time. If these players are the ones who only care about stats then why not play WoW or some other game where that is only thing cared about. I remember a video where a youtuber criticized about certain things about FF14 and it's community only for them to quit the game because they didn't like what he had to say. This is one of those conversations. As soon as you don't like how other's play, meet the standards or talk about the content that isn't 100% great you attack them and make excuses on why everyone should play that way. Not everyone will play that way but it doesn't give the right to mock them for not doing what you and some others do.

I never ask for carries and I make sure to do every mechanic in DR as good as possible. Yet I and other's get attacked because we don't use certain things. Just because it adds a little more time like whoopie do it took a little time. You in a hurry or something?

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Speed and efficiency is incredibly fun lmao.
"Go play WoW" "You have a mental disorder" and you got the balls to call other people toxic?