Fake FCs' Housing Abuse

If they removed the garden plot cap and made it so I my alts had access to my house. Would give up most my plots. If they made it so it so one could use their GC for expeditions I would give up all my fc plots.

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Originally Posted by Arielen

Anyway, if you take issue with my signature, it's your right to report it. I just find it fascinating to log for historical purposes.

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Given the amount of stuff that was stirred up by the other poster when they discovered that thread.... I hardly doubt that's the case.

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Originally Posted by Awha

If they removed the garden plot cap and made it so I my alts had access to my house. Would give up most my plots. If they made it so it so one could use their GC for expeditions I would give up all my fc plots.

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I wonder if gardening's not getting a redo with Endwalkers... so this entire thing may be a relic of the past.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I assume SE would put in a mechanic that prevents someone who is already fc leader of a fc with a house to become the fc leader of a second fc with a house. Like...that's the only way it would work. SE would have to change something.

But that person's idea isn't mine so I don't know how they would answer you. Anyway I think their suggestion is excessive. Limiting house ownership to be per server would be enough, and there is no reason to limit apartment ownership at all. I do agree that all alts should have access to the same private home...but I think almost everyone agrees with this given how convenient it would be for everyone. Even SE agreed this would be a good thing.

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The only reason I can see that being an issue is when RL interrupts FFXIV, and the FC leader has to pass leadership for RL reasons (which can happen for a variety of perfectly valid reasons). The one scenario I want to avoid is a situation where the leader passes it to the #2 in the FC, but #2 can't take it for whatever reason and the FC house gets released to the market which screws over the FC because of picking a #2 that can't have an FC house on their account. That's a large reason why I want the FC house bound to the FC and the game code does a check for unique active subscriptions and leaves the FC house attached to the FC if there's 4+ unique active subscriptions. IMO it's the FC that's the owner of the house, and not an individual person, so the house ownership should be based on the number of people needed to create the FC (which is 4). I'm also going with the assumption that SE intended the FC to be created by four unique players (identified by their subscriptions), and not four alts on the same account, since you cannot have an alt sign your FC charter.

The real root of that issue (aside from people wanting to own a house) are the expedition and gardening mechanics being locked behind various housing requirements, and in order to deal with the shell FC problem you've got to remove the workshop and gardening incentives from the FC (and hopefully Endwalkers does that with gardening).

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

There's always going to be the handful of people that want to stick a char in their friend's FC especially since we can roll 8/server.

How would you suggest handling that?

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You can't have it all (well unless your one of those "woke" persons) :). Just trying to make it ez and fair for everyone..

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Would been nice but alts cannot share apartment or houses since you are unable to add your alt to your friendslist which is a requirement to add them.

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They would have to make changes so alts can share with you, what a concept huh???

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Originally Posted by Besame

They would have to make changes so alts can share with you, what a concept huh???

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Yeah and we've been asking for that for, what 7 or years? I hope it do happen but I have my doubts by now.

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Originally Posted by Besame

(well unless your one of those "woke" persons) :)

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what does this even mean

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Originally Posted by Besame

You can't have it all (well unless your one of those "woke" persons) :). Just trying to make it ez and fair for everyone..

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No, I'm just trying to get you to think through how it would work.... so how would you handle people that have multiple chars in multiple FCs that have houses? Assume, for the sake of argument, that the FCs are normal FCs and not shell FCs.

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Originally Posted by Besame

You can't have it all (well unless your one of those "woke" persons) :). Just trying to make it ez and fair for everyone..

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What does wokeness and the such has to do with anything in this regard?