Really hope next savage tier is delayed.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Yeah and they can uncap it when 5.4 hits. There is no reason not too since the ilv goes up.
Everything from the 5.2 tomes is useless, more so for the people that raid and heck, even the people doing 24man since...you get the upgrades right? I don't remember.

Because not to be rude, obviously most people and myself asking for this is to prepare for savage.
Its pretty much a pointless wish granted if they DON'T uncap the tomes, because we need the crafted items.

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Yeah, they always uncap current tomes when the next tier increases. You still wouldn't get that on the msq patch.

They already do this with expansion patches to give players time to prepare (and to not make players feel like they have to rush through MSQ), so the same argument could be applied to subsequent raid patches. With that said, I wouldn't want it to be 2 weeks, but just one week. Normal can be released as usual on patch day, followed by Savage a week after.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Yeah, they always uncap current tomes when the next tier increases. You still wouldn't get that on the msq patch.

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No point in arguing this as it'll just be a back and forth deadlock.
If you think they won't uncap then no point in this endless debate because I think they will as delaying savage is so players like me can prepare and actually do other content.

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Originally Posted by linayar

The devs can of course change how they do things. But unless they see a reason to, chances are, they will not.

Also, we do have patches where Savage is delayed, so I can go by that to see how they would delay other things if they delay Savage.

And the content that you are requesting a change to affects other things as well. So, no, I don't have to do the content that you are requesting a change to and still be affected by it.

And even if the mats are bought by previous tomes, delaying Savage still won't change anything because you still can't use it until Savage is released along with the new recipes.

And that's probably the biggest reason why it's a pointless wish because they most likely won't do that.

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Didn't realize you were part of the development team to know what they wouldn't do. Hey can you tell me how are they changing mnk? I miss playing that job.
What makes you think hey won't release the recipes?
If they delay savage pretty sure they'll gives the players things they need to prepare.

Also what other players? People that do dungeons?
Again, you dont need those tomes if that's the highest amount of battle content a person does.
And even if you do want it for the sake of just feeling stronger, it's just a week wait until you can farm tomes.
People acting like msq will be the only thing in the patch.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

They already do this with expansion patches to give players time to prepare (and to not make players feel like they have to rush through MSQ), so the same argument could be applied to subsequent raid patches. With that said, I wouldn't want it to be 2 weeks, but just one week. Normal can be released as usual on patch day, followed by Savage a week after.

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Expansion patches are bigger than subsequent raid tier patches and have two new tomestones while subsequent patches only have 1 new tomestone that comes with the Savage release.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Didn't realize you were part of the development team to know what they wouldn't do. Hey can you tell me how are they changing mnk? I miss playing that job.
What makes you think hey won't release the recipes?
If they delay savage pretty sure they'll gives the players things they need to prepare.

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Why are you equating future job changes to something that can be seen in the .05 patch of a new expansion since at least Stormblood (if not Heavensward)?

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Also what other players? People that do dungeons?
Again, you dont need those tomes if that's the highest amount of battle content a person does.
And even if you do want it for the sake of just feeling stronger, it's just a week wait until you can farm tomes.
People acting like msq will be the only thing in the patch.

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I don't need those tomes just like you don't need to rush through content.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Expansion patches are bigger than subsequent raid tier patches and have two new tomestones while subsequent patches only have 1 new tomestone that comes with the Savage release.

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They also stagger other content that comes out in non-expansion patches under the same reasons I mentioned, so what would make Savage any different there.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

They also stagger other content that comes out in non-expansion patches under the same reasons I mentioned, so what would make Savage any different there.

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Other content is more self-contained or have to fit into the primary system. In terms of PVE progression, Savage and tomestone is the primary system.

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Originally Posted by Waterscape

The thing is for the turns 2/3 and 4 you need a higher ilvl than your actual BIS . The next savage tier ilvl is going to be 500/505/510/510 . Hardcore static can probably clear the first 3 without problem with 500 ilvl , but not sure for the 4 if it have a dps check like shiva.

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Well, then it becomes more important to make the best use of your Normal and turn 1-3 gear and the dps checks are that much tighter week 1, rather than shoving a 510 pentamelded set on your entire team right away. I don't think the higher requirements mean we have to be given access to crafted gear immediately.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Why are you equating future job changes to something that can be seen in the .05 patch of a new expansion since at least Stormblood (if not Heavensward)? .

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Are seriously replying to that as if it was a serious question? Are you being willfully obtuse? Lmao.
And I won't need to rush once savage gets delayed.
But you wouldn't know ofc. You probably never been in a static and if you have, probably was to farm 4 year old primals for mounts.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Are seriously replying to that as if it was a serious question? Are you being willfully obtuse? Lmao.

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Got it, so you once again have no point to make and start spouting nonsense or irrelevant stuff.

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And I won't need to rush once savage gets delayed.

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You don't need to rush without the delay.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Other content is more self-contained or have to fit into the primary system. In terms of PVE progression, Savage and tomestone is the primary system.

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Weak argument. Savage can still be staggered without affecting tome release schedule. There's no hard rule stating that the two have to be linked. You can argue on how they've established a pattern of such, but if SE were bound to the same content release schedule with no changes then we'd still be at 300 tome cap, resets being on Monday, crafted gear being ilvls lower than previous raid BiS, all advertised content being released on patch day, and so on.