Smoking emote.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Yes I would because it's a game and they should get over themselves on digital games. Also, many things smoked in pipes have no smell and no issues what so ever...
Honestly, if I knew someone was scared of a spider I would put a spider on them, same goes with snake so they get over that pathetic fear. Next Again, its a game... its not like your nose is in the game. I mean, that's basically like a vegan complaining about in game food being meat lol

This is why games today suck and people make horrible movies/tv shows this days because everyone doesn't know the difference in fantasy and reality obviousely. Real life Morality real life issues with stuff shouldn't prevent any shows ever made. So many snowflakes in this world use well I hate this because real life, or so many bad things from X in real life I dont want it in the game. Its a fantasy ....

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Whoa, dude! I can agree with your post except for that because that is a HUGE dick move. Phobias are legitimate psychiatric conditions people can’t help, but it’s done of your darn business to try “curing” them. This ain’t how exposure therapy works anyway and I am frankly dismayed by your callous attitude and hope no one with a phobia or any sort of trauma goes near you. Not like a fear of snakes or spiders is “pathetic” anyway considering there are various venomous species that can kill you (and you can still get hurt by harmless species anyway if you’re unlucky); such phobias are old primal survival mechanisms that kept our ancestors alive before the modern era. And if whoever has such phobias isn’t going to work with snakes and spiders, there’s no need to “cure” them unless they want to get over it. And I’m speaking as a big spider and snake lover.

But otherwise, yes, I agree many people seem incapable of separating fantasy from reality and are convinced that somehow a stupid video game will make people actually do things. And yet here’s my generation who grew up with Pokemon, but afaik, at least 99.9% of us are are pretty anti-dogfighting (which was what a lot of people think Pokemon involves, but I’m not going to explain established lore and mechanics here).

No one’s going to actually breathe in the smoke in-game, especially not if they re-use the existing pipe animations. Pipes have also been fantasy staples anyway, but you don’t see most fantasy fans smoking because some random protag smoked.

Nah, smoking is gross, unhealthy, and unattractive.

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Originally Posted by ChazNatlo

I'd say the distinction between self harm and smoking is, as the quoted Merriam-Webster definition states, purpose versus consequence. The person who commits self harm is purposefully harming themselves to fulfil their desired relief. The smoker's injury comes from a consequence they choose to either ignore or accept as a a trade, rather than the act it's self.

You could make a similar argument about any form of self gratification with health consequences, like eating in a less than perfectly healthy manner because food tastes good.

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Fair enough. I don't think harmful self-gratification emotes are something that suits the game though. We aren't able to emote stuffing our faces with sugar and grease or make an obese character. Instead we can exercise by dancing, sparring and doing squats, push-ups and sit-ups. We can't gamble our gil away or pretend to use drugs with emotes. We can /toast to celebrate an occasion but we can't express being in a drunken stupor like this NPC:

https://i.imgur.com/EQOtMcn.png

Everything points to player characters leading a healthy life so I just don't see how taking up deadly vices is consistent with the image we currently portray as Warriors of Light or with how we interact with other players.

My issue is with tobacco specifically because it's one of the leading causes of deaths around the world. Some of those who die to it are killed by other people smoking. Being able to promote it via emotes to other players who could be minors is not a necessity. People could just make mods for this purpose like they do for other adult content. If there is some ancient method of inhaling smoke which in no way resembles cigarettes, cigars or pipes, that would be fine by me. Could call it /medicine too. Edit: Or make a housing item which allows your character to interact with it and smoke in private.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Fair enough. I don't think harmful self-gratification emotes are something that suits the game though. We aren't able to emote stuffing our faces with sugar and grease or make an obese character. Instead we can exercise by dancing, sparring and doing squats, push-ups and sit-ups. We can't gamble our gil away or pretend to use drugs with emotes. We can /toast to celebrate an occasion but we can't express being in a drunken stupor like this NPC:

https://i.imgur.com/EQOtMcn.png

Everything points to player characters leading a healthy life so I just don't see how taking up deadly vices is consistent with the image we currently portray as Warriors of Light or with how we interact with other players.

My issue is with tobacco specifically because it's one of the leading causes of deaths around the world. Some of those who die to it are killed by other people smoking. Being able to promote it via emotes to other players who could be minors is not a necessity. People could just make mods for this purpose like they do for other adult content. If there is some ancient method of inhaling smoke which in no way resembles cigarettes, cigars or pipes, that would be fine by me. Could call it /medicine too. Edit: Or make a housing item which allows your character to interact with it and smoke in private.

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It's a game. People should be of the age to know not to imitate what our characters do in game. Such as wielding axes and blades to kill critters at the beginning of our adventure

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Honestly, if I knew someone was scared of a spider I would put a spider on them, same goes with snake so they get over that pathetic fear.

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Wow....you must be a great person and fun to be around...HUGE /s

Seriously? Being scared of spiders is pathetic? that's like one of the most common fears people have.
Was this your attempt at trying to "school" them? you failed...horribly, lost all credibility.

You sir, are the pathetic one.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Wow....you must be a great person and fun to be around...HUGE /s

Seriously? Being scared of spiders is pathetic? that's like one of the most common fears people have.
Was this your attempt at trying to "school" them? you failed...horribly, lost all credibility.

You sir, are the pathetic one.

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That is nice Lol, it makes them learn the hard way that there is no reason to fear the spider or the snake those two creatures only attack people who desever it anyways if you don't mess with them they won't mess with you.

Also, you're right, it is common, but the common man is inferior to those of us who know there is no reason to fear any animal.

Its about teaching them the hard way the same way to teach someone who can't swim how to swim you throw them in sink or swim is a great teaching method.

And nop your incorrect.. the world and nature doesn't cuddle with people its a harsh reality that the fear is Pathetic and should get over the fear.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Fair enough. I don't think harmful self-gratification emotes are something that suits the game though. We aren't able to emote stuffing our faces with sugar and grease or make an obese character.

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That would be awsome making an obese lala tank! YES this should be a feature! Joking aside I do see where you are coming from, but I hate smokers IRL, I have walked up to random strangers and asked them if they knew how to read while smoking in front of a non smoking sign, it has gotten my ass kicked though, but I still stand by what I said. That aside for me I see no parallel between actions in a fictional world and a game world, even though I know people do I am just blind to it I guess I have a differing view on many topics regarding what people do ingame though.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

That is nice Lol, it makes them learn the hard way that there is no reason to fear the spider or the snake those two creatures only attack people who desever it anyways if you don't mess with them they won't mess with you.

Also, you're right, it is common, but the common man is inferior to those of us who know there is no reason to fear any animal.

Its about teaching them the hard way the same way to teach someone who can't swim how to swim you throw them in sink or swim is a great teaching method.

And nop your incorrect.. the world and nature doesn't cuddle with people its a harsh reality that the fear is Pathetic and should get over the fear.

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Studies have shown that the fear of spiders is likely a genetic one, as even babies who will have never seen one will react in fear. It is a survival thing, as spiders can get in to where a baby is, and they are poisonous. Bears, while deadly, do not elicit the same reaction in babies, as they are unlikely to encounter one within their home.


You aren't "better than the common man" or anything. There is nothing that makes you a greater person. Your interactions here tend to point you down the other way.

If a smoking emote is implemented, then you gotta implement an exaggerated cough emote at the same time. I’m asthmatic IRL, so I’d make my character cough around these smokers for added immersion.

(But honestly, smoking is a dirty habit irl, and I hate that I have to use my inhaler, and still get a phlegmy, wheezy cough for the rest of the day, just because someone smoked near me while we were both waiting for the bus)

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

If a smoking emote is implemented, then you gotta implement an exaggerated cough emote at the same time. I’m asthmatic IRL, so I’d make my character cough around these smokers for added immersion.

(But honestly, smoking is a dirty habit irl, and I hate that I have to use my inhaler, and still get a phlegmy, wheezy cough for the rest of the day, just because someone smoked near me while we were both waiting for the bus)

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Then can I have a gag emote for when my character gets next to someone emoting /toast ? Because that's my irl reaction when I smell alcohol.